Why do they say that the United States was founded in 1619, anyway? People came here in 1619, but the UNITED STATES was founded in 1787, with the Constitutional Convention. Was it perfect?--Absolutely not. But it improved, and gradually came to live up more to its professed ideals. It nearly tore itself apart during the Civil War. And thus slavery was abolished. Is it perfect now? Absolutely not. But it will not be made so by bringing in a collectivist ideology and system to violate all the rights of man.

Some very good points--However, from what I read, in the case of Kunta Kinte, he was not a slave at the time he was captured and forced onto a ship that brought him to America. And his descendant, Alex Haley, said that when he went there, there was a sort of oral historian, who went back generation by generation, and spoke of Kunta Kinte going into the woods to chop wood or something, and was "never seen again". -- However, in other cases, they were slaves, and sold by fellow blacks.

Agreed. There is no defense for slavery or racism, but the practice of slavery was not uniquely American and racism is not unique to white people. We shouldn't buy into either of those premises. As individuals, we can each decide not to be a slaver or a racist.

It is NOT founded on violating people's rights. It was founded on the RECOGNITION of those rights. Was if perfect? No--and it still is not yet. But tramp-
ling all over those rights by trying to force (or swindle) the population into a collective violation of those rights is not only not the answer, it is a gross travesty. Ayn Rand did not and did not want to write a new Constitution for this country--she did want the one we have to be made more consistent.

I can't defend American slavery, although I do not take any blame for it, although white, since I had nothing to do with it. But then I am an individualist,
not a racist.

Well anyway, welcome!--Sometimes the immigrants make the best American citizens, perhaps because they personally know the difference. (Look at Irving
Berlin, for instance, who wrote "God Bless America". And, of course, Ayn Rand).
In fact, some years ago, it seemed to me that there was a lot of xenophobia on the part of native-born Americans who resented how hard immigrants were willing to work.--Although I can't go along with allowing all those people at the southern border to jump the fence, of course, and the child-trafficking, etc.

No problem....I came from the UK...AKA England. Damn I am glad to be here. I could never have achieved the lifestyle in England that I have here. Unfortunately, we are headed down the path to Socialism the the UK has already trod.
We are just lagging behind them. The only thing holding back the federal government from doing to the US citizen everything the UK government does to its subjects is firearms.

If this is not too personal, what country did you come from?

I do not agree with the notion that the US was founded specifically on violating people's rights, even though it's not perfect, had out-and-out slavery, and continues to violate people's rights today.

If people decide the US is founded on violating people's rights and has become a hopeless case, so we need to create carefully a new republic that holds truer to Enlightenment ideals; potential good could come out of that. Many posts on this site are some variant of that argument.

Once you know what you're looking at one can't help noticing the entertainment and advertising industries are enacting the "cook the frog slowly" approach to destroying free America and making a communist America look appealing, not to mention blatantly racist policies against white people.

Your mention of the Star Trek franchise is apt. I only had to watch the first few episodes of "Voyager" to see it as a left wing socialist-dripping-with-politically-correct "hate white males" narrative. I was done with that crappy propaganda series after the second episode.

They’ve been subliminally attacking the Founding Fathers for decades. One example is when StarTrek named its antagonist race “The Founders” I recognized that blatant propaganda back then. All their work is beginning to pay dividends.

Of course they want to use labels. The American communists can't help but slur the founding fathers.
"1The report suggests a few short and long-term fixes for this problem. For one, it says labels needed to be added "addressing the lack of representation and predominant focus on the men who framed the founding documents. These labels could also address efforts to reimagine the Rotunda for the future"

Just flicking wonderful. Why this nonsense is called "woke" is easily explained by the novel 1984. Now there's a true number for you. Happening in a city/town/village/ hamlet near you--right now!

Hello sister of an ancestor who was an indentured slave, uh, servant. My many greats granddad was kidnapped in Germany (or maybe sold to feed the family, we'll never know) , put on a ship sailing out of Edinburg to Maryland around 1732, and ended up years later in Pennsylvania. History happened, good and bad. I totally agree with you. DEO idiots understand nothing.

The founding of the USA came out of the Enlightenment, which came out of peoples of Europe, not the peoples of Africa, Asia, or the Americas. It only makes sense the key players would be the descendants of Europeans. Nothing racist about it.

The backlash on all these claims of "racism" of one sort or another, will be horrendous. And I think it will come from those who are being labelled as "victims". As more and more claims are made by the leftists twits re: "injustices", I seem to see the curtain being pulled back to expose just who is really the racists, etc. pulling the strings of the puppet clowns who are in the forefront. It will not end well for any of us.
I don't know maybe its just me.

Nancy Pelosi wants to help out these crazies by removing paintings depicting historical scenes of the founding fathers from the Capitol Rotunda. This attempt to destroy and rewrite US history is right out of George Orwell's 1984 and the philosophy of communism. Then a Black Billionaire Robert Johnson is pushing for reparations so he can have some of it too. He should be financially helping members of his own minority. They just want a handout not a handup.

I just read this today:
https://meaww.com/national-archives-r...

My first relative born in America joined the family in 1619. I resent these 'Do everything Over' idiots messing with history when they don't even understand what's going on today.

“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
George Orwell - 1984

Walter Williams was famous (or infamous, depending on your political flavor) for saying black Americans should be thankful their ancestors were brought to the Americas as slaves, because the survival rate of American slaves was much better than their relatives who remained in Africa. That is factual, but very politically incorrect, even if a prominent black economist said it.

Deceitful history empowers no one. What good is served by telling blacks they are victim, making them eternal slv aes, to people like Soros. Blacks are the only group who never overcame victimhood. He put Japanese in camps, we mistreated Chinese on the frontier railroad line. we ridiculed Irish who came after the famine there. Cherokee who did not make the walk to Okla. remained poor, like my great great grandparents, in the hollows of teh deep South. Yet, only the Black are used and encouraged to whine. Is it not because people like faux African American Obama, Soros, Pelosi and BLM all encouraging it? As Soros put it, he likes to use blacks to riot, as the are "stupid" and he can "manipulate them." Who need to use whom, that is what we should ask, and never let them anywhere near US schools and policy making. These violators are the ones who ignore the Constitution.

My Irish roots arrived here on ships as Indentured Servants, That is just a nicer way of saying Slaves!
I don't want any reparations because I never knew a single one of them. Slavery in this country ended over 150 years ago and not a single black slave is even alive today to receive any reparations.

Very well said.

Where are the Muslim reparations for slavery of white Christians and Jews too? Where is the shaming and condemnation for the Muslims and Africans
The point of this being that 1619 bull is all nonsense , hypocrisy and fanciful propaganda.