Blasphemy: absence of REASON when Talking Trump

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 4 years, 12 months ago to Culture
106 comments | Share | Best of... | Flag

Are we so starved for representation that we'll accept anyone who plays the part? How much do we forgive and turn a blind eye for these 'champions' and still offer fidelity?

Most here have known me for quite some time. In that vein, you would know I am fundamentally a constitutional conservative who core principals generally align with objectivitsm, with some exceptions. I've never said I was anything but a conservative and have argued its merit, at least for me, in my life, many times. I've been accused of being too emotionally invested in a subject, as a Conservative, to fully understand Objectivism's reason oriented position. More times that I can recall, I've been told I'm not 'consistent' in my personal philosophy.

My being the Conservative, the inconsistent and emotionally invested one here among our 'community' I seriously need to ask where is REASON when it comes to Trump?

Forget the excuse that there is no good option - moderately relevant.

Did not Trump fast track the development, bypassing all safeguards, of the faux-ine with his "warp speed' fiasco?
Did not Trump piss away trillions of tax dollars to big pharma putting us, future generations, much further in debit?
Did not Trump, the loud-mouth type, pipe down and do nothing for his last month in office EVEN THOUGH it was apparent, with quantifiable evidence, that widespread cheating occurred?
Why did Trump not march with his supporters following the great-fraud?
Why has Trump sat idle the last months as binden has fleeced this country and opened the nation to so many dangers inside and out?

Reason this out for me please. How are the deaths and crippling ailments from these "faux-ones": not the handi-work of Trump (who's still peddling this bullshit)?

These are not the actions, or in-actions, of the greatest president in our lifetime or our nations history, as some believe.
Post Trump non-lefist Americans are being condensed into areas on the web where they must register in primarily insecure databases or sites are bought out (Parler, which required drivers license and/or passport info). Are we better off as a people from this?
Post Trump our lives are being imposed on, being told what to believe, what to think, what to accept.
Post Trump racism has been institutionalized and part of government policy.
Post Trump our border is wide-open and our border patrol being told to essentially stand down.
Post Trump children are being caged and waiting for their perverted pedophiles to be rewarded.

Post Trump, how are we better off?



All Comments


Previous comments...   You are currently on page 5.
  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 12 months ago
    You sound so discouraged, I wonder if you have set the bar too high? I was a federal lobbyist. I met with Congress people and their aides, There is nothing special about these people. They make mistakes just as you and I. I was never particularly impressed with any of them that I met as far as grading their intellect. But I didn't judge them. Getting elected President doesn't make one special in any way. That person has a lot of responsibility and we expect a lot of them.



    t
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 4 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are blind to the issue or you refuse to actually look. It is much larger and more widespread that simply politicians taking advantage. I also think compliance (public wearing of muzzles, even after it wasn't recommended) says a lot more than simple 'socialism". There is ample evidence, public testimony from around the world about eh damage being done by the faux-ines - lives lost, people crippled somehow, and pregnancies suddenly miscarried after take the faux-ine. If you bother to look you will find them.

    The post isn't about covid. It is about the nearly religious reverence toward Trump shown here and elsewhere and calling it into question,

    As for biden..he's a sock puppet for those without this nations best interests or Constitutions in mind. The damage he's doing paying back his masters, those who got him elected, will last generations (caveat, if the country does).
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • -5
    Posted by CircuitGuy 4 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think nothing remotely of this sort is happening. This is all pure conspiracy theory nonsense. The actual problems are more mundane. I see the main problem has the gov't being a third of the economy. The existence of this weird conspiracy fantasy world is right up there with it. I don't know how prevalent it is. I'd like to think it's people signaling their rejection of socialism without for a moment actually believing this stuff. If that's the case, though, I think it would be more effective to abandon the signals, accept reality, and oppose socialism directly.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • -2
    Posted by CircuitGuy 4 years, 12 months ago
    I am not sure if the irrationality is caused by Trump. (It could be.) It seems we’re in a political time that rewards wackiness, absurd and outrageous claims not directly tied to policy. I think the wackiness is actually better than a specific policies, e.g. government taking over healthcare, laws that make it hard to hire and fire people, trade barriers, violating everyone’s right to crack down on some perceived threat like drugs, guns, kidnappers, etc.

    I do not want to go back to a having a clownish president, but in some ways it’s better to have politicians firing up the rubes with antics that have a high ratio of outrage to actual consequences than doing things with real long-term consequences. President Biden is a very normal, dignified, centrist-sounding president pursuing spending that’s consistent with what I would expect from Sanders. I don’t think he’s a radical by nature. He’s a politician, and he’s responding to the unfortunate reality that Democrats having become more liberal.

    I am really concerned about how this deficit spending will end. I do not think the government has gotten more oppressive per unit spending over my life. But spending has gone up. If it should turn into a monetary crisis requiring less spending, people may respond badly. The crisis in ‘08 and with the pandemic were solved with massive borrowing: “How about this idea, we send the poor and middle class checks, we expand unemployment, delay/reduce tax payments.” Imagine how people will react if the only viable solutions are “cut this-and-that program and send in more tax money”. It could be like the crisis in Greece with massive protests of people demanding politicians find a way to get them money without work.

    I’ve always thought it will be a mini-crisis that politicians will deal with, and not let go to waste, when it happens. But the lack of sanity makes me wonder if people will rise to the occasion when the time comes, esp considering how people lost their minds over the pandemic, which was a serious problem but not all that bad as typical crises go.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • -1
    Posted by $ 4 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Are we so starved for representation that we'll accept anyone who plays the part? How much do we forgive and turn a blind eye for these 'champions' and still offer fidelity?"

    Potentially, he's done more harm than Hitler, If this faux-ine is what it looks like mankind has been genetically changed, at least those who actually lived. He may have facilitated the down fall of what was left to a Constitutional US, led our people into genetic slavery, and facilitated the complete collapse and obsolescence of the US dollar giving rise to full traceable and revocable digital currencies.

    Frankly, I'm not so sure he opposed the deep state in as much as played his part. Much like lucifer in God plan.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 12 months ago
    Many more people are now aware of what has been obvious to some for decades.
    That is, government is a gang of mobsters who should not be trusted, have lied at every opportunity, and many are guilty of high crimes against the people including treason.
    Unfortunately, many of those now aware people will do nothing and will still buy the same line of rubbish that the GOP has been peddling for decades while looting and trashing the constitution.

    I agree with your points, Trump was not as good at representing the people and defending liberty as I would have liked either,
    but there are also other positives that resulted from his presidency.
    (DOB and others have pointed out those benefits here frequently.)
    Trump was also at the disadvantage that almost without exception, both major parties,
    congresspeople, the media, and most of his own administration did everything they
    could to make any progress against the deep state impossible.
    Trump did oppose the deep state in many ways.
    The only other president I can recall who has done that is JFK, and he was murdered for it.
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo