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Faucci's Defense of Lying

Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 weeks, 1 day ago to Government
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You lied to us for your perception of the public good. We pay you for that? Really?

And how then should one interpret what you say in the future. I know what I will do, just what anyone should do with someone who lies, assume what you are saying is a lie, until one does their own analysis. Therefore, as a public servant, you are completely useless. Therefore, you should be fired.

This is an indefensible position for a government employee.
SOURCE URL: https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/fauci-defends-march-2020-recommendation-not-to-wear-masks_3772352.html?mktids=a49ffc0a09754ce0e74c6279aed0120d&est=k3TL2KJfMLmbdFIzZ0fLCnFDl6Ncp9EkL4%2B6qhHIIUxcRfF4IjMz3Tejfq0Ndj0%3D


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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 weeks ago
    When people ask my what I think of Fauci, I tell them straight up that he is an outright liar and I can show three separate times he has openly lied. The first is his flip-flop on masks. His own CDC studies show that they don't work (his initial position) but he is now an advocate for double-masking?

    The second was his first grilling by Rand Paul in August of last year where Paul cited all the evidence from Europe that schools were safe to open. Fauci agreed with Paul in that hearing, yet only days later appeared on the morning shows to advocate against opening up schools. (I add that Paul's second grilling only recently was just as impressive as Paul pushed Fauci to show ANY data supporting his position - and couldn't.)

    Third was his disavowal of hydroxychloroquine despite a 2005 study which showed that HCL was both safe and effective - even when taken preventatively - against SARS-based virii. Can't get more specific. What was even more telling about this lie was that only days after Biden's inauguration, the CDC reversed case, said they were wrong about HCL and re-instated it.
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  • Posted by Misanthropic-Shrugger 4 weeks ago
    I do believe that there are such things as "noble lies." You don't cause mass panic and you don't crush a newly-diagnosed cancer patients hope for a positive outcome. That notwithstanding, Fauci's lies were mostly ignoble, because his motives were POLITICAL, not humanitarian (for the most part IMHO).

    Always judge the source of information AS WELL AS the motivations of that source.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 weeks ago
    The only "defense" for lying is offering an apology and not doing it again.
    Doktor Faucila more than often lies with creepy smile as would a mad scientist in a horror B-movie.
    All he lacks is a Transylvanian accent.
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    • Posted by $ 4 weeks ago
      I was thinking Renfield, Dracula's little wormy sidekick.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 4 weeks ago
        Hmm, there is a Fauci resemblance of Renfield in the original Dracula flick, which maybe I last watched during the Sixties on TV~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7C7p...
        Not sure but I think I watched it two or three times on some late Saturday night horror movie show. Can't recall Elvira ever showing this during the Eighties.
        For the second time since the Seventies I read Bram Stoker's novel, Dracula, just last year. Love how Stoker strung pages from diaries, letters and a doomed ship's log together to make a novel-length story.
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  • Posted by nanovation 3 weeks, 6 days ago
    His reasoning for lying to us was bogus as well. He claimed that he lied to us so that "medical professionals would be able to get masks first."

    Except, the only problem with this explanation is that hospitals and doctors ALREADY GET PRIORITY FOR MASKS, because they have corporate contracts with the manufacturers.

    Think about it folks, when was the last time you saw a surgeon in scrubs at Home Depot?
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    • Posted by $ 3 weeks, 6 days ago
      Good point. Yet another erosion of his excuse.

      The entire event had one objective - To ensure Trump failed to get reelected, which was a surety until COVID.

      Now the Orwellian Deep State and Made-up-Media are trying to figure out how to put dispel the fear they created and leveraged, without admitting the whole weather forecast was a hoax.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 weeks ago
    I've been screaming this from the virtual rooftops every since the words came out of his mouth. I knew he was lying at that very moment, and I knew why. Of course, if he HAD told people to wear them, back then, he would be simply wrong. Is it worse to lie, or to be wrong, or to lie AND be wrong?
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    • Posted by $ 4 weeks ago
      Lying is ethically inappropriate. Being wrong is human, and forgivable. It is better to be wrong.

      It is best to know the difference between what you know and what you don't know, and not to push when you "don't know".
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 4 weeks ago
        Gonna have to disagree with you on that Thoritsu. When someone asks me something that is literally none of their business, I have no obligation to tell them anything, true or not. And if I do choose to tell them something, it can bear as much relation to the truth as their "requirement" for me to answer bears to reality.

        However, in Fauxi's case, he was speaking to an audience who rightfully expected the truth out of him, as that is what he was paid (quite handsomely) to do....tell the truth.

        In any case, if you consider me ethically inappropriate, I guess that's okay. That makes two areas we disagree on, and yet....I still like you! People can have differences and still be of good will.
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        • Posted by $ 4 weeks ago
          Perhaps I should have clarified that unethical assertion being limited to a responsibility in executing an obligation (contract, salary etc.).

          Objectively speaking, it is illogical to choose to lie in general, since it will reduce your own credibility which has value to you. Lying in specific may be different, for example, explaining to a 2 yr old what happened to the fish or hamster.
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