Autism. Another one Falls

Posted by Abaco 4 years, 3 months ago to Science
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I live on a little court, 12 houses. Everybody knows everybody and there's very little turnover. In the past 20 years there have been three boys born to families on this street. Not a lot of kids. All three boys have come down with autism. Not one has skated by without the diagnosis. And, these are real, classic autism cases: toe walking, hand flapping, non-verbal, no-eye-contact autism. The third one just fell to it. He's a little over two years old. He was speaking and interacting with his parents - funny little guy. But, he's stopped talking now and had taken to toe walking around their car in the driveway....round, and round, and round.

Should this be thought-provoking? What are your thoughts? Might this be a regional/environmental thing? All three were fully vaccinated per the CDC schedule up to the point of acquiring the disorder. This third one, though, is interesting. His family - all Fox News Neocons - have been loyally pro-vax since I've known them. I know the type well, being a conservative guy myself and having a lot of friends who are very Republican. The attitude is always, "I don't trust government except for vaccine safety. They nailed it on this one topic." As the baby has clearly hit the spectrum he lost his grandmother. Two days after getting her first mRNA vaccine she dropped dead in her apartment - on my buddy's (her son's) birthday of all things. She was in good health, mild diabetes. Found dead on the floor. If you read the VAERS reports on these mRNA vaccines there is a clear pattern of this kind of death. That, obviously, shook the family. Now...they're opening up to me about grandma and this little boy - asking for my input. I haven't opened up yet. I'm reluctant given how painful it is.

The unspoken numbers of this pandemic are staggering. As a father, a coach, and a man who lives in the state that houses at least 1/4 of the nation's homeless (a huge portion of which is able-bodied men in their 20s) I can tell you this is a serious issue. News media wants to tell us about George Floyd, how well Biden's first presser went, and what a bad guy Trump is. At what point do American's wake up and recognize a problem?


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  • Posted by $ brightwriter 4 years, 3 months ago
    My commentary in the Medical Sentinel in 2004, suggesting that beliefs imputed to small children (if I was in Billy’s situation, I would prefer X, therefore Billy prefers X), has inspired hate e-mail and personal attacks but no scholarly rebuttal as far as I know. Environmental issues, perhaps including weird stuff in the water, are definitely suspect. But if the community is close-knit and the role of children is aggressively stereotyped, then I think a behavioral contributor to autism is definitely possible.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good points, since it is always denied, no one has investigated alternatives, except "conspiracy theorists".
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I belive covid is the first mnrna altering vaccine. Normal vaccine is to introduce either a dead pathogen, or live one for immune system response. One issue is most child hood vaccines have a huge load of stuff, some never disclosed.
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  • Posted by fairbro 4 years, 3 months ago
    I thought that the problem with vaccines vis-a-vis mental health was that the way vaccines work is by altering your RNA. This, then would affect a child's growth by affecting his DNA? Please excuse my partial ignorance, I think Rand Paul had some opinions about vaccines along these lines. The other thing that bothers me about "medical care in the US" is all the children being administered psychiatric drugs in school, while no studies on the long-term affects of such psychotropic medications have been done. My nephew passed away in his early forties, living in his car, he was unable to socialize or hold a job. His mother, my sister, allowed him to be prescribed klonopin from early in grammar school. On the other hand, for comparison, his two sisters were never given drugs, and they are very successful, happy and prosperous.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 4 years, 3 months ago
    Coincidence is not causality. There could be a genetic component to their sons' autism. The youngest may be mimicking his brothers. As for vaccines, everything has a risk. You can gamble that you will never get shingles or you can decide that the effects of shingles far outweigh the vaccine risks.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. In my profession we had a huge problem with vaccine induced fibrosarcomas in cats from the aluminum adjuvants. At first denial by the vaccine companies but then the aluminum adjuvants were removed and surprise no more fibrosarcomas. Amazing how that works.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Technically, Fluoride is not a metal, but a halogen gas in the same family as Chlorine and Iodine. It is the most reactive element on the periodic table (Oxygen is second) and will forcibly bond with just about anything - even some noble gases. It is also used to separate and process Uranium isotopes.

    Fluoride is used to bolster teeth strength by attaching to bonding sites which might otherwise be subject to the acids given off by bacteria in the mouth as a byproduct of anaerobic metabolism (cellular digestion without oxygen as a catalyst). It has been shown to be effective at preventing cavities for this reason. (Of course it begs the question why brushing and flossing can't do the same...)

    Vaccines are a useful medical invention for proactively spurring resistance to certain pathogens. The problem - as noted - are the "additives" and peripheral chemicals commonly found in many mass-produced vaccines which then get injected directly into the body. These chemicals injected into a developing body and mind... Not so good.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Secretor status is an important factor. Those, like myself, do not secret our immune antibodies in any fluid of the body except for the blood. Immune antibodies in saliva prevents most cavities. Add to that, fluoride and your in trouble.

    From what I understand, fluoride from nature might be beneficial but not from iron smelting, it's like trying to get calcium from rocks instead of from plants.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 4 years, 3 months ago
    Damn the pain, damn the opprobrium, full speed ahead! Vaccines and the crap they put in them (mercury (thimerosal) aluminum, formaldehyde) are not safe, and people ought to at lease have the benefit of full disclosure and informed consent before they or their children are jabbed. How can people be informed if no one informs them? You know they're not going to get that information from the legacy media. I tell every expectant parent and parent of a newborn I meet about the dangers of the childhood vaccine regimen (from personal experience--my son was diagnosed with autism), and about alternatives to standard practice: spacing out vaccines (no multi-shot cocktails) and requesting vaccines without thimerosal and aluminum adjuvants. If it saves just one kid...
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  • Posted by STEVEDUNN46 4 years, 3 months ago
    I gave my daughter Florida tablets when she was very young. She did not have a cavity when she was old enough to move out.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Flouride is a metal and it generates the bonding ions needed for calcium to stik to dentin on your teeth. I am not sure that Flouride would be the cause, since it was in use in the 60s in San Diego when I grew up, I did not have any cavities a a kid, until we moved to Sweden, with no flouride, and had 4 or 5 the first year. Just data. Is it needed or not dangerous? Who knows, the lies are tremendous. But, I posted here a while back a place that lists all the "non useful" crap in vaccines, and it is amazing. Propylene Glycol is a really bad thing used as a cleaner and is found in many vaccines (a byproduct of the manufacturing process). I am sure you will find a connection to all three cases being some group of shots they got. But don't mind me..I am just a conspiracy theorist...
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No. From what I understand fluoridated water was very little to do with teeth. Not really sure what the purpose is. If you think about it none of it makes sense. "Some children have bad teeth. Fluoride is good for teeth. Everybody drink fluoride." How's that for deduction? Sunblock is good for me (it is, actually). Everybody drink sunblock...
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I noticed it didn't decrease cavities in our children. I had kids under 9 years of age who needed full caps on all their teeth. I ordered porcelain caps, no silver caps like "Lurch" for my babies. I just wrote another grant!
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Haha...yeah - at this point I'm open to any suggestions! My teeth were screwed up with fluoride when I was a kid - fluoridosis. If it weren't for that I'd have a nice smile (well, my wife still likes it...)
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 3 months ago
    In my city children don't need to have their teeth treated with flouride. We have an abundance of it in our water. It is rare to see a child with autism and I saw, in one 10 month period 7500 patients (medical, dental, and mental health), and only one child with autism for a hearing test which didn't happen. I think autism is not enough of something in their diet. But I don't know what it might be. Now wasn't that an astute observation? But I'm not a doctor.
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