This is a play. If the person believe in the vaccine, then they need not fear those of us who do not feel safe taking it. Issue is, a bunch of talking heads who have done no research want to call the shots. They do not know the dangers of any vaccine, on certain of us. They do not know the myriad of issues with this basically untested vaccine, which may set the vaccinated up for health issues in the next couple years. They have not ruled out its causing brain disease. They have not explained exactly what damage they do to the natural immune system. They have done no test to find out the number of people iwth natural immunity or T cell immunity, who need not take the vaccine and actually should not take the vaccine.

600k people died WITH covid, not necessarily FROM covid.

I took the vaccine that is offered after analyzing the risk of perhaps getting covid at my age. Most of the employees are a lot younger and probably dont face the severity of a covid infection. Which is why I let them make personal decisions on it.

Way to completely ignore my comment. Again, you are telling your employees that you think it is a "good idea" for your employees to take a vaccine that has little to no research, obviously no long term studies about what it may or may not have in the way of side effects because you are too tight to offer sick pay for when people are sick? The only thing you said that I can agree with is "so little is known". And you are ignorant if you actually believe that 600k people died FROM covid.

Because of the EUA and not actual approval it can not be made mandatory legally. It does not mean they will not employ carrot and stick methods as opposed to the say the flu vaccine which hospitals can require for health care workers which is an approved vaccine. Many of these rules only apply to healthcare workers and even there covid vaccine cannot be mandatory

I'm only cautioning ...from experience.
I had to ask an employee to voluntarily quit due to what I saw as the onset of Parkinson's disease. There were medical examinations, confirmations, and discussion on ability to do required work.
Another item I had to research was in the realm of business insurance. Are you covered in the event we are discussing?

Here is what you would be up against. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-suprem...
The burden of proof will be upon you. And the expense of discovery. Feed the lawyers.

I have to agree the government figures are skewed in favor of more government power. I personally have seen many exceedingly mild cases of Covid-19, many of which are never reported. I also think that the whole vaccine thing was rushed through a bit too fast to really assess efficacy and side effects. If u want to crow about how much protection you get, don’t you have to have two groups, one with vaccine, the other with no vaccine- and then deliberately expose each participant to equal viral loading and see who gets covid? But who is going to actually run such a test !!!

The laws only apply to govt. in the context of a vaccine needed for "emergency" use.

An employer can require employees if he believes that they could be harmful to others and thus the business. They may need to allow exemptions for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons; but I am pretty confident they will win any court batter on this issue.

Does this remind of a Steven King story?
Remember....it was only a handful that began the emancipation from Mother England.

Here's just a quick run-down on "Rights". an FYI to cover you.
It is unlawful to require a "vaccination":
US Constitution, Article 4, Right to privacy.
US Title 52, Civil Rights Act of 1964, Unlawful to discriminate in a place of Public Accomodations
US Title 42, Section 12101: Unlawful to deny entry to persons with disability or perceived medical condition.
US Americans With Disabilities Act: Unlawful to deny entry to persons with disability or perceived medical condition.

You stand a chance of violating State Law under the following:
Practicing medicine without a license.
Impersonating a medical professional.
Falsely assuming to act as a public officer.
State civil rights accessibility laws
False Imprisonment
Possibly, Disorderly Conduct, as an act may be deemed "abusive".
Harassment
Solicitation to a Felony
Conspiracy.

So....do your homework or have a very good lawyer do it.
I've spent over 3 decades running my own show.....learned a lot.

Th reason you state is the HOPE that it prevents or reduces the disease. The reality is it is unknown what safety and efficacy results from taking it are.
The trails are expected to continue to 2023.
600k dead but was it all Covid absolutely not no flu deaths no pneumonia deaths people dying in auto accidents . It is a very inflated number.
How many it’s hard to say ,when you incentivize
The hospitals to find cases through testing that is flawed. The get more cash. Same with Covid listed deaths , they get more cash. What would you do?

The most important reason to take the vaccine is to prevent or reduce the severity of the disease itself. Particularly if you are more susceptible to it in terms of ones immune system. So little is known at this point. But nearly 600k people have died from it in the past year

Actually I think it’s a completely personal decision on their part. I have said nothing on the subject to them. Each of them needs to weigh the risk of covid infection vs the risk of vaccine complications. I decided st my age to try the vaccine and avoid the infection and near certain death if I got it.

Simply put , crimes against humanity.

The experimental mRNA shot It is actually being used illegally. The emergency use authorization is to be used when no treatments exist. Treatments do exist. Dr Fucki stated in a 2006 paper That chloroquine is an effective treatment for SARS. He should be hung for crimes against humanity. Trust the science.

This vaccine is still "experimental" it has not passed "all of the tests of any previous vaccines". And I don't see anyone spreading fear. They are expressing their opinion that this untested, unnecessary vaccine is not a decision to take because the government or peer pressure is trying to get you to do so.

So in your mind you think it would be "a good idea" for your employees to take a chance on a completely untested "vaccine" that could conceivably cause huge complications and in some even death because they could potentially miss out on a few days pay? Priceless.

I defended it based on science before I got the vaccine. "Support" it now for good reasons.
Having had the virus should make you support it even more; however, you may have enough antibodies now to not need the vaccine.

This is just an uneducated observation- it seems levels of antibodies and general health level join together and allow a body to overcome some level of incoming viral load. Get exposed to more viral load than your immune system can fight- and you get covid. We don’t have a viral load meter, so we all have to guess at outr exposure. I survived for a year with no vaccine and no covid. Probably a combo of being healthy and staying away from most close contact indoor situations. Who knows. I have seen a number of associates at work get mild cases of covid. I had gotten scared into getting vaccinated 6 weeks ago and didn’t fall prey to covid even being around these coworkers. So maybe the vaccine increased my tolerated viral load. I can only guess

D! I haven't even had a cold since my first pneumonia vaccine about 14 years ago. But according to my doctors (pleural) i sure had Covid. P. S. I finally got my appetite back but I'm still not gaining any weight. That's actually good.

You sound like someone who took the vaccine and is trying to defend it. Talk to some of us who've had the virus and see what we think!

Did you see all the crap they add to this vaccine? Really bad stuff! If these vaccines are so great why hasn't the FDA approved any? This is ridiculous. And scary! Now they are killing babies.

I wonder that too, and don’t know the answer. My understanding is that, in general, vaccines attempt to invert the body’s natural healing procedure (e.g., cell-mediated before humoral immune systems). So much of this is unknown territory we are exploring and messing with, ripe for unintended consequences. And I also know there are so many conflicts of interest involved in the development of the so-called COVID-19 “vaccines,” there is no way I can trust them, or whatever answer they would give about their antibodies vs. the ones I make naturally. (There is no way they were do a legit study on the issue either. I’m sure they would say it is unethical....)

You're going to want to reel it in a bit there, Demetrius. Please review the Gulch Code of Conduct and refrain from any further ad hominem attacks.

https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/faq#...

I have wondered for awhile if you are susceptible to very mild case of covid 19, if the antibodies that result from that are better than whatever the vaccine does

Correct, the mask doesn’t really help. I too remain C19 free, unfortunately because I am confident that it would be a mild case and would like to get the antibodies naturally. I don’t avoid, but in fact seek out social environments that don’t require masks. In my circles, those are few and far between.