Most Europeans, Including Hospital Staff, Refuse To Take COVID Vaccine
Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 3 months ago to News
"Europe rolled out a huge COVID-19 vaccination drive on Sunday to try to rein in the coronavirus pandemic but even more Europeans than American are sceptical about the speed at which the vaccines have been tested and approved and reluctant to have the shot.
While the European Union has secured contracts drugmakers including Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca, for a total of more than two billion doses and has set a goal for all adults to be inoculated next year, this is looking increasingly like a pipe dream: according to recent surveys, the local population has expressed "high levels of hesitancy" towards inoculation in countries from France to Poland, with many used to vaccines taking decades to develop, not just months.
“I don’t think there’s a vaccine in history that has been tested so quickly,” Ireneusz Sikorski, 41, said as he stepped out of a church in central Warsaw with his two children.
"I am not saying vaccination shouldn’t be taking place. But I am not going to test an unverified vaccine on my children, or on myself."
Smart: why take the risk of getting vaccinated when others will do it, resulting in the same outcome.
Surveys in Poland, where distrust in public institutions runs deep, show that fewer than 40% of people planning to get vaccinated. Worse, according to Reuters on Sunday, only half the medical staff in a Warsaw hospital where the country’s first shot was administered had signed up. And if the doctors don't trust the vaccine, one can be certain that the broader population will refuse to take it.
The situation is similar in Spain, one of Europe’s hardest-hit countries, where 28-year-old singer and music composer German summarizes the skepticism of a broad range of the population, and plans to wait for now.
“No one close to me has had it (COVID-19). I’m obviously not saying it doesn’t exist because lots of people have died of it, but for now I wouldn’t have it (the vaccine).”
nobody in Europe seems to care about these "scientific" justifications. Independent pollster Alpha Research said its recent survey suggested that fewer than one in five Bulgarians from the first groups to be offered the vaccine - frontline medics, pharmacists, teachers and nursing home staff - planned to volunteer to get a shot.
An IPSOS survey of 15 countries published on Nov. 5 showed then that 54% of French would have a COVID vaccine if one were available. The figure was 64% in Italy and Spain, 79% in Britain and 87% in China.
Since then things have gone far worse, and a more recent IFOP poll showed that only 41% people in France would take the shot. This means that a vast majority will not."
While the European Union has secured contracts drugmakers including Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca, for a total of more than two billion doses and has set a goal for all adults to be inoculated next year, this is looking increasingly like a pipe dream: according to recent surveys, the local population has expressed "high levels of hesitancy" towards inoculation in countries from France to Poland, with many used to vaccines taking decades to develop, not just months.
“I don’t think there’s a vaccine in history that has been tested so quickly,” Ireneusz Sikorski, 41, said as he stepped out of a church in central Warsaw with his two children.
"I am not saying vaccination shouldn’t be taking place. But I am not going to test an unverified vaccine on my children, or on myself."
Smart: why take the risk of getting vaccinated when others will do it, resulting in the same outcome.
Surveys in Poland, where distrust in public institutions runs deep, show that fewer than 40% of people planning to get vaccinated. Worse, according to Reuters on Sunday, only half the medical staff in a Warsaw hospital where the country’s first shot was administered had signed up. And if the doctors don't trust the vaccine, one can be certain that the broader population will refuse to take it.
The situation is similar in Spain, one of Europe’s hardest-hit countries, where 28-year-old singer and music composer German summarizes the skepticism of a broad range of the population, and plans to wait for now.
“No one close to me has had it (COVID-19). I’m obviously not saying it doesn’t exist because lots of people have died of it, but for now I wouldn’t have it (the vaccine).”
nobody in Europe seems to care about these "scientific" justifications. Independent pollster Alpha Research said its recent survey suggested that fewer than one in five Bulgarians from the first groups to be offered the vaccine - frontline medics, pharmacists, teachers and nursing home staff - planned to volunteer to get a shot.
An IPSOS survey of 15 countries published on Nov. 5 showed then that 54% of French would have a COVID vaccine if one were available. The figure was 64% in Italy and Spain, 79% in Britain and 87% in China.
Since then things have gone far worse, and a more recent IFOP poll showed that only 41% people in France would take the shot. This means that a vast majority will not."
Notice how Pfizer and Moderna sock has done since the vaccines started getting delivered? Not very well. And, Pfizer's CEO said they didn't prove that it would stop the spread, and he hadn't taken in - as of about 2 weeks ago.
Very interesting...
You couldn't pay me to take this vaccine. I will refuse it. Even if it means giving up air-travel!
What are the Odds? Hundreds of people come to Hospice to visit their sick family members...Not One, again, NOT ONE has brought covid to our door step.
Covid will cease to be any issue at all.
1) If Vaccines Work, then ONLY THOSE not taking them are at risk. They OPTED for that risk. Done.
2) If vaccines don't work well enough to protect those that take it. THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND someone take it! You are asking for someone else to carry a risk, without PROOF of any kind of reward. Either they work, and it doesn't matter if I don't take it. Or YOU ADMIT they don't work, and then you can't force me.
I am good Either way.
I will pass...
The wussification of America continues!
We have to get herd immunity via the vaccines; get them to save our economy.
Effectiveness is essentially proven. Mortality rate - 0; throughout trials and since.
Far too skeptical.
I've made it this far without the vaccine (and I am NOT an anti-vax person - I am up on all of mine, including influenza taken in October). I don't mask. I don't social distance, and I don't stay home. (Latest info out is that not a single case of COVID has been identified as a result of asymptomatic transmission. Not one.) I also have not become sick, though that could change at any moment. If it does, I have treatment options available and lined up.
Fauci, Gates, and the rest have become the worst POSSIBLE ambassadors for the vaccine. Many of us would be far more likely to take it had they not stuck their noses into what - we find out - is very likely their own business. Had that remained hidden, again, we'd be more comfortable, but I am not sad that their involvement is known.
So, many of us are happy for YOU to get your Covid vax, and YOU can be part of the herd immunity. I personally haven't been sick in so long I don't even remember the last time I was....certainly nothing serious since I had the influenza at 10-ish years old. I had my 71st birthday a couple months ago....maybe this will assist you in understanding our skepticism?
common sense !! I also havent gotten the flu
Further, because you have not been sick says nothing about the probability of getting COVID which is highly contaminating. You have been lucky thus far. Let's get herd immunity by everyone being willing to get the vaccine.
When I am satisfied that the vaccine is acceptably safe (as defined by ME) then I will consider taking the vaccine.
Until then, there's no "let's" in this equation at all.
When is it time to drop the skepticism?
You make it too subjective. The evidence speaks for itself, and it is not rational to wait for no sound reason. That's like being agnostic wrt religion because there may be evidence in the future.
When is it time to drop the skepticism? When I am ready, not one second sooner, and I am the person who gets to decide when that is. You do not get to decide this for me.
WRT your third sentence: This is very different from being agnostic WRT religion because with religion, I can change my mind at any second, if I so choose. Once the vaccine has been administered, there is NO option to change my mind or undo any damage that might happen.
You are not going to win this "argument" with me, as long as I have the ability to make my own choices. You don't get to make them for me. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever. If you think that's "too subjective," you have the right to whatever you choose to think, but that makes literally no difference to what I think or more importantly, what I do.
This is Galt’s Gulch. And you’re advocating for mandatory government vaccination or give up individual liberties.
While the FDA is necessary to keep the charlatans from killing people too busy, ignorant, or just frightened by illness to use good judgement, it is a way to reduce some deaths and maybe a way to piss off some Libertarians and Conservatives. Only rationally applied reason will lower the death count.
Just some statistics from Walworth county Wisconsin.
About 7% are or have been infected.
About 1.1% of deaths are Covid-19 associated with positive tests.