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Will You Take the Mandatory COVID Vax?

Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 4 months ago to Government
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Now the chatter is starting on the national news front with a reporter who grew up right near us - Lester Holt. I think there will be a move to make COVID vaccination mandatory in the very near future. My question to my fellow Objectivists is, "Will you submit?"


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  • Posted by edkbaker 3 years, 4 months ago
    Nope. I don't do any of those. I don't trust them, and yes, I am very cynical. Most all are made in China and they, supposedly, are designed for what the experts "think" will be the strain that particular year. I would rather play darts. We see how good the "experts" are.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 3 years, 4 months ago
    There are many involuntary submissions for living in the USA. Short of legislation to change that, one needs to decide whether the penalty for disobeying is worth the trouble. For example, educating ones children is a trade off on mandatory teaching of state required material regardless as to public school, private school, or home schooling. Ignoring the state will most likely result in fine or jail time until the state is paid.
    If you are old enough to remember the military draft which had mandatory physical exam resulting in fine for service, 4F unsatisfactory for service, and other considerations. Some went to Canada which upset many Americans and others accepted prison sentences as punishment.
    I do not want to see a mandatory requirement for vaccination. enough who voluntary take the shots should be enough, bringing the disease to an acceptable rate of about 30000+ deaths a year as with influenza.
    The preliminary estimate for US deaths for 2020 is 8880 per day, which is about the usual increase from 2019.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years, 4 months ago
      If the people who think that the disease is serious enough risk for THEM decide to take the vaccine or live under the bed (whatever), let THEM take the vaccine.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 3 years, 4 months ago
    I'm a pretty average American. I think that I, more than likely, take the vaccine. If it becomes mandatory, more than likely not.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years, 4 months ago
      Exactly. If its so good, I should be able to see that and take it. If they have to force it on my, my reaction is that its not so good anyway that they have to force me.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 4 months ago
    Mandatory, voluntary, macht nichts to me. I don't have negative reactions to vaccines, unlike others who might have to worry about this new vaccine. I'm willing to be a guinea pig to see if there's any danger from this new vaccine. If I have a negative reaction, people should worry.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 4 months ago
    Submit? As long as I have free choice, I'm not submitting to Schiff.
    Me dino is 73 with Type 2 Diabetes, I don't want to catch that crap and I trust Trump, who is not making me submit to anything.
    Allosaur short for Allosaurus means "different lizard." The name kinda fits me as the nonconformist of the day.
    Now if Biden steals in and tells me I have to submit, that will be a problem.
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  • Posted by Orwellian 3 years, 4 months ago
    Someone said the elderly should get it first.<br>><br>> Someone else said first responders should get it first.<br>><br>> Here's something we can all agree on.<br>> 1. The vaccine should be tested on politicians first<br>> 2. If they survive, the vaccine is safe.<br>> 3. If they don't, the country is safe.<br>><br>> A Win, Win!
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 4 months ago
    I will politely take a pass from the Covid Panic Vaccine.
    The difficulty is how the Covid Vaccine card relates to travel / flights.
    Proof of having taken the vaccine shot may be required for international flights.
    In that case, that could put a snag in my plans to get to the Himalayas for adventure trekking.
    Of course, I could always opt for a slow boat -- but I expect that passage on large boats will similarly require the Covid Card.

    In somewhat related news, I wanted to buy an AR last summer. The gun store told me that I would need to fill out a bunch of papers and be on a wait list, etc... However -- If I bought the upper and lower separately, and they were sold as such, I could put the two pieces together with the provided pins, also buy a box of 556 and head from the store directly to the range and start shooting. And so, we have the private marketplace always being a step or two ahead of the State. I expect there to be similar means of getting around the Covid Card when it is implemented.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 3 years, 4 months ago
    I can't understand all the "no" responses.
    If you would take it given it was not mandatory, then you should still want to take it but not because it is mandatory. That is not "submitting".
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 4 months ago
      I appreciate your response. The operative word here is "mandatory". My thoughts on this is that it should be up to you. In fact if you want it you should be able to get it. That should happen soon, depending on where you are. Where we would have a disagreement is if/when you want to use the force of government to make other people take it. This is as much a philosophical as well as scientific discussion. Cheers, and stay safe...
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