DEPOPULATION VAX: Trial subjects injected with coronavirus vaccines suddenly test positive for HIV – updated

Posted by $ BobCat 1 month, 1 week ago to Science
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After reading this article, and recalling earlier discussions and theories as to the strong possibility of the Wuhan lab working with the HIV virus and the Sars virus and splicing them together, or at least parts of each. I find it very odd and puzzling that they are now discovering HIV reminants in those Australian Vaccine Trial Recipients who have had the Covid-19 Vaccine made by Australian biotech company CSL Limited. So if the reports are correct, why utilize HIV sequences in the vaccine - unless a specific sequence of HIV was indeed utilized in the creation of Covid 19 ??

Good grief, Cannot Man just leave Nature alone ? The waters are awfully murky these days.

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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 month, 1 week ago
    Not really surprised, based on the first white paper I read from Wuhan research from over a decade ago. Sounds odd though, doesn't it?
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  • Posted by Lucky 1 month, 1 week ago
    There are some things wrong with that article.

    The writer, does not know how the test (it would have to be the pcr) works,
    it compares something from the patient with a sample. The sample is not The Virus, it is a something with a specific genetic code. That code is common with many things including dead (non-reproducible) virus and probably links to HIV, that is- not able to cause infection.
    Thus a positive test result for a patient does not mean- that patient has The Virus, nor HIV.

    What is really bad, the drug company or at least those doing the testing, do not know all that.

    Yes, this virus is bad, maybe more or less as bad as flu, depending..
    Testing whether a vaccine works ,effectiveness, when there is no sound test, can not be done in a couple of months.
    Testing for safety is another thing again.
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    • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 1 month, 1 week ago
      PCR is a solid technology, but it's important that it be used properly and the results understood. As you point out, what we are really doing is looking for a specific genetic sequence found in the virus -- not the virus itself. We amplify it many times to see if we can take a small amount and make it detectable. A couple of things can happen here.

      The first is that the 'target' is not exclusive to the virus you're looking for. If another virus has the same sequence you will get a positive hit. Most of the Covid PCR kits are looking for three different targets. Some consider a single hit positive, some require all three. Some kits look for one and if they are positive are run again looking for a second. There are a lot of different kits out there and different standard interpretation rules.

      The second is what does 'positive' mean. PCR typically runs amplification cycles until you detect the target sequence or hit some large threshold such as 40-45 cycles. Eventually you must conclude it is not present.

      If it is positive, then that sequence IS present. It won't find it if it's not there. Of course even the slightest contamination can result in it being in the sample you are measuring but not the patient.

      If the sample is not contaminated and we get a positive hit, that means that at some number of cycles we found it. If that's 10-20, there was quite a bit to start with If it's 40, then there was very little in the patient's system. Now we come to a judgement call: Is this patient sick? Do they have active replicating viruses that can spread. That's whet we consider 'positive' and it's a judgement call based on how many cycles it took to detect it

      We are generally setting the cycles very high because if we say negative we would like to say that there is no virus. But with the virus ubiquitous in our environment trace presence will become ever more common without people having symptoms or generating the vast number of viruses that makes someone contagious.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 1 week ago
        Thanks, WS.
        It appears that no one has analyzed and published just how common the virus is in people without symptoms recently.
        We are still being led around like sheep without enough data to make rational decisions on how dangerous the virus really is. The media, as usual, is stirring the pot to generate as much fear as possible. Until Buy-dem is inaugurated. Then there will be a massive calming effect and instant cures discovered in the articles that the media have conspicuously avoided making widely available for a year.
        If I was Trump, I'd pull all the networks broadcasting licenses and EO to shut down Farsebook, Google, Twits, et al until they disband their biased censorship.
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    • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
      My interpretation of the article is not that the testees have AIDS, only that HIV proteins are showing up in their tests. As the article questions,"Why were they testing for HIV proteins to begin with"? I think a more important question is ,"Were they testing for HIV proteins because it was in the vaccine, or because they suspect it to be in the Virus itself"? Which if the later, strongly suggests that the virus was indeed man-made. That's the question I find most interesting.
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