Whistleblower Claims CDC Hid Data Linking Vaccines To Autism : Personal Liberty

Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 8 months ago to Science
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I wish I had known, or at least suspected, that there was an alleged link between vaccinations and austism when our son was born. I do not believe it is the vaccinations themselves that can lead to austism, but rather the thimerosol (mercury) that is used as a preservative in vaccinations, especially multiple vaccinations in one shot. The government, the pharmacuetical industry, and the Wall Street Journal have consistently maintained that there is no link. However, I know that my son was a bright, engaged infant, and his whole personality changed after the standard California prescribed regimen of vaccinations. We received a diagnosis of autism when he was three.

Autism rates have skyrocketed as the number of required vaccinations have increased. Anybody who thinks its because of better diagnosis and more awareness, or because parents want government aid for their children, has not spent much time around autistic kids. After 17 years with an autistic child, I can tell other autistic children within a minute or two of meeting them, and also autistic adults who might never have been diagnosed. Naturally with our autistic son we met many other parents and their autistic children. Some of their children became "autistic" immediately after a round of a vaccinations. With multiple vaccinations, the mercury level is far in excess of what the government considers no risk. The symptoms of autism are virtually identical to the symptoms of mercury poisoning.

There have been studies supposedly "proving" that there is no link, but some of the studies do not even control for mercury in the vaccinations, and many are conducted under the auspices of either pharmaceutical companies or the government, neither of whom I trust. My son has made amazing strides; he will graduate from high school this year, he has a job at a hamburger stand, and he is very smart, which puts him in the Aspergers camp. However, he admits that he is socially awkward, and he has had some real struggles making friends and getting along with other kids. We will probably never get an official admission that autism has something to do with mercury and vaccinations, but if you or anyone you know has a newborn infant, parents can request thimerosol free vaccinations, and can space out vaccinations and have them administered one at a time. As we Gulchers know in many other contexts, relying on the government to protect our interests is the definition of foolishness.


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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's my belief, based on personal research on the immune system in connection with an entirely different matter. It is possible that the number of vaccinations administered over a short period of time during childhood provoke an immune response that overloads the system and possibly leaves one vulnerable to autoimmune conditions.

    Now if an autoimmune connection to autism could be found, it would be a MAJOR contribution to modern medicine and some solid science which might shed light on this issue--and perhaps many others.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As I read the article, part of what came out to me was not that vaccines were bad, but that they had to be introduced at the proper times. The evidence was that it was effectively the massive numbers of simultaneous (or near-simultaneous) vaccines at a premature introduction were causing the rise in autism.
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lack of ability for Critical Thinking is an understatement, and on this we can agree. The Overwhelming Desire for Instant Answers I'll argue may not hold water for this particular situation. Stakeholders (Parents) have been screaming from the rooftops that vaccine reactions have led to precipitous declines in intellectual and biological functioning for their children for 20 years. I'm not sure that finding out 10 years after the "Governmental Agency" designed to protect us from this type of preventable damage has intentionally deceived us into believing that vaccines are safe by violating the very practices of good science we are lead to believe they practice constitutes a desire for instant answers; other than to demand for the punishment and restitution that the situation demands. Good science can, and has been, done on the vaccine front. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has already compensated thousands of families for vaccine injuries, as long as it wasn't called autism. You could be compensated for all of the standard criteria for autism, as long as you labeled the criteria in your suit, and not called it autism. I do not want to deny anyone the right to inject anything they want into their bodies. I can even understand the argument that they should be allowed to inject anything they want into their minor children's bodies (where the alternative is that the government makes that decision). However, I should be able to opt out of the mandatory vaccine schedule as a whole, or on an individual shot basis, without repercussion (if you desire, we can begin the argument on Herd Immunity now, and I'll further school everyone on that fallacy).
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    :)... I think my HS grades kept me out of MIT. They, like Rice and Princeton, turned me down. Northwestern, RPI, Rutgers, and I think Stevens Institute were willing to take a chance on me (and take my money.)

    I've observed that in many such 'discussions,' folks on one side reject the veracity of experimental results put forth by 'the other side.'

    Rarely, if ever, do both 'sides' get together and discuss the experimental processes as well as their results before decreeing that 'my side wins.'

    You're absolutely right! Agendae seem to drive 'results' more than experimental design drives accuracy OF results. One of my favorite examples nowadays is the Global Warming "debate." The levels of 'he-said/she-said' or 'you fudged the data/no, I didn't' have made any rational discussions fairly impossible.

    Me? I still blame lack of ability for Critical Thinking and Overwhelming Desire for Instant Answers by the Public as two of the root causes of the situation.

    And I don't see those changing... do you?
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sure the snarkyness served you well at RPI. Maybe you would have gotten into MIT if it were not for all of the negative influences on your biology. My apologies for my own snarkyness, but when someone comments, without knowing that in fact the science has been replicated, at leading, and respectable institutions around the globe. Funny how you don't know that you can also achieve any outcome in the experiment you want, if you just bend the data and controls to achieve the desired result. Read the studies, and when you understand that the agenda drives the results, especially from government agencies, then we might have an intelligent discussion on the science.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 8 months ago
    Robert, my sister is a commercial artist who works
    with Aspergers kids;; she is very successful at
    bringing them forward in hand-eye coordination and
    social interaction, creative expression and self-
    confidence. it is wonderful to see!!! -- j

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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 8 months ago
    and I heard yesterday that CDC is studying falls,
    as in "trips and ..." to determine causes;;; how are
    falls diseases, I wonder. government intrudes into
    everything....... -- j

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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and all these years I've blamed my OCD, chronic depression and some ADD on my genes...
    The mercurochrome mom slathered on my cuts and the aluminum pans I fried my bacon and eggs in each morning, as well as the rosin and lead vapor fumes I inhaled over decades of soldering electronic gizmos together just NEVER occurred to me to have been an influence.

    Not. You can blame any cause you want for any effect you don't want, but if the experiments aren't replicated, reviewed and controlled, it's all BS.

    Amazing how I even made Dean's List at RPI with all those negative influences... :)
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll get together with my wife, she's the true font of information, and I'll send an email within a few days, either at your above email, via PM here on the Gulch, or both.
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you straightlinelogic, always looking for what might help. I'm not saying that he hasn't made improvement, but he is biomedically very complex and has had a lot of severe damage. CDePalma@aol.com
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 8 months ago
    When I read things like this, I cannot help recalling the video in which Bill Gates speaks to like-minded people about the need to reduce population and concluded, "Vaccines are the way to go," whatever that meant.
    I have long been wary of vaccines, since my nephew suddenly had full blown MS after being forced to take the shots unapproved by the FDA during the Gulf War. About the same time, a friend of ours dutifully took her flu shot and, within hours, was in a hospital, completely paralyzed. She remained in the hospital for weeks, went through endless physical therapy, and continues to be tied to medication since. A local mortician spoke before a civic group recently, and warned people in attendance of the dangers of vaccines, which he said were filled with dangerous chemicals.
    Being allergic to eggs, I shudder every time they suggest "mandatory" vaccines, as the allergic reaction would be worse than most diseases for me.
    The government is in bed with big drug companies, doctors are woefully uninformed about the vaccines, and we are the herd animals they all want to control..
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am very sorry for your family and for your son. My good friend has an autistic son. He developed it following a virus that culminated in a seizure. He was 2. He is a senior in college now. Their lives have been extremely difficult but also very rewarding
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 8 months ago
    The government seems to be exempt from the truth, from the right thing, from fairness, from anything that benefits the people other than itself and it's own people, period. Will they ever admit to a link to children like my daughter, developmentally delayed (she's 32 going on 13), and the other over 50% of my comrades with similar children? Our only commonality was Vietnam and Agent Orange. "

    One of the good parts is that special needs children/adults are exceptionally wonderful people, they love and are loved and cherished perhaps even a little more than normal children. They truly are Special.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some psychiatrists in this country continued to try to treat syphilis via Freudian psychotherapy long after the introduction of treatments for the disease. No, I am not referring to the Tuskeegee Experiment. I have several pre-World War II textbooks which advocate it.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Conversely, I have seen no evidence linking vaccines given later in life to any major problems. I believe there are occasional cases of Gillan-Barre Syndrome which may be tied to some vaccines. Hysteria of alleged cases of the syndrome stopped the 1975-76 swine flu vaccination program (and were later proven to be false). Of course, the swine flu never materialized, leaving one to wonder what the government was panicking about.

    I have a flu shot every year, sometimes a pneumonia shot, and got the shingles vaccine after an outbreak which could have cost me one of my eye. It is purely my decision and I regard the benefit vs. any risk as more than worth accepting.

    I believe the HPV vaccine is more than worth considering, as if in wide use, it would prevent roughly 27,000 cervical cancer cases each year. Since HPV is transmitted sexually, there is no need to administer it during infancy. But I do believe everyone at the onset of puberty (yes, including men, who are generally asymptomatic but can transmit it) should be offered the vaccine. I say again, offered, not required to have it.
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not all vaccines are available mercury-free. What isn't discussed is that the role of mercury in vaccines was not just as a preservative, it was also an adjuvant. The mercury was necessary to irritate our immune system to respond to the virus it was trying to get a reaction to. When they removed to mercury, they replaced it, mostly, with aluminum. Aluminum is thought to be a even more potent neuro-toxin than mercury.
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Italian courts have all ready recognized the autsim/vaccine link and have made it a compensable injury. I have yet to find a single study that disproves a link. If you have one, please post a link to it. I'd love to see it.
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  • Posted by Kova 9 years, 8 months ago
    I think that vaccine-related autism is also due to a particular sensitivity within the immune system of an individual whose experience (reaction to the vaccine as trauma) may trigger an already latent tendency for autism. I have no directly available links to back up this theory, but it could explain why so many kids do not develop side effects from the vaccines. In the end, it should be up to the individual to decide whether or not (and what type of) vaccine is suitable for their child.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago
    I'm intrigued. If indeed there is solid science backing the claims (with any luck the whistleblower will be able to produce some documentation).

    Vaccines have saved countless lives. That said, they are now given massive numbers of vaccines in rapid fire order at an age when a child's entire system is developing. It would not be ethical to perform a series of studies involving infants, but surely larger-scale statistical data could be maintained with ease.

    I do not believe vaccines to be evil. But I do question the number given over a short term to a small child. In my day (oh, how I feel weird using that phrase), there were four childhood vaccinations: measles, smallpox, diphtheria/tetanus, and polio. In my present home state, at last count there are 21.

    Remember that the purpose of a vaccine is to promote an immune response so that the body inoculates itself against a specific (usually) virus. I am unaware of any objective science on repeated intense stimulation of the immune system (again, in a developing child) on general health.

    Many people blame mercury. I have been unable to find anything solid to support that. Only a few vaccines still contain Thimerisol as a preservative. But making the body believe it is "sick" 21 times with at least 21 different illnesses? To my knowledge, that is essentially an ongoing "experiment". Surely it is worth examining with a non-political agenda.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The genetic explanation cannot explain the many cases where the first symptoms of autism show up within a day or two after vaccinations. I believe there is a genetic component to susceptibility to autism. However, with vaccinations, in many cases we may not even be talking about autism, but rather mercury poisoning. There may be a genetic component to that as well. Did the Italian study use vaccines with thimerosol?
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 9 years, 8 months ago
    A study in Italy found no relationship between vaccinations and autism. Multiple genes are implicated in this disorder, hence the range of outcomes. Fivedollargold tends to think the increase in the rate of autism is due to better education and assessment techniques. It wasn't long ago that physicians were being taught its cause was "cold mothering." $5Au doesn't reject the vaccination theory entirely, but the same logic could be used also to claim it is caused by prenatal exposure to microwave ovens. You can't infer causation from what is essentially correlational data.
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