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The Gulch is still there

Posted by $ johnrobert2 1 month, 3 weeks ago to Culture
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For all those who may remember way back when, I posited this as a possible Gulch site. It is still there and the last offer was at US$700 per acre. The way things are going, we probably need to be far away. Far, far away.
I have a complete plan for building a Gulch, on paper. For those opining for a place, here you are.

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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    This is particularly concerning about Fiji:
    https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/re...

    Even in comparison to its Pacific neighbours, private gun ownership in Fiji is uncommon, at a rate of one lawfully held firearm for every 550 people. Civilian gun owners must be licensed, and their weapons individually registered. Private firearms are restricted to hunting, sport shooting and arms collecting. Handguns, assault weapons and automatic firearms are prohibited, with safe storage of all small arms and ammunition required by law.

    In stark contrast to most nations, the number of small arms in civilian hands in Fiji is dwarfed by the arsenal available to military and police personnel. With the largest army per capita in the south west Pacific, Fiji has a history of political and ethnic unrest. From 1987 to 2006, the nation suffered four armed coups d'├ętat, and remains under military rule.
    Fiji prohibits civilian possession of automatic weapons, and of firearms with a barrel length less than 24 inches (61cm).1 A pistol is defined as a firearm whose barrel length is less than nine inches (22cm).2

    In 2001-02 there were 1,465 licensed civilian gun owners, with 1,538 registered firearms, most of them shotguns.3 4 This is one of the lowest firearm possession rates (0.18 per 100 people) in the Pacific. Of these 1,538 registered guns, 63 per cent were in the hands of ethnic minority Indo-Fijians, while 19 per cent were owned by indigenous Fijians.5 When unregistered, illicit firearms are taken into account, including those small arms diverted from state stockpiles during political unrest, about 4,000 guns are estimated to be in private hands, for a possession rate of 0.5 per 100 population."

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    I see no way to defend the property from anyone who wants to take it.
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    • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      Noted. But if you must choose between what is coming down the pike if Biden wins or something less onerous, which would you choose? Choices are going to have to be made, whether you want to or not, where you want to be.
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      • Posted by $ Dobrien 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        If we lose this election , the world will lose the last beacon of hope for individual liberty. There will be a revolution here though how it turns out is the Q.
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  • Posted by Son_of_the_Right_Herder 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Hear me out on this what if the Gulch were to be made in Colorado, partially submerged. Buried with roof skylights, the ground is solid, adopting an old mining complex means some of the rock and debris is already gone. Posting it as a natural preserve/land restoration gives us anonymity. Heating is easier to maintain and if we were to mine it for gold deposits we have our "Gold standard" for currency and trade. What are your thoughts on this?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    I hadn't forgotten about this, johnrobert2. It is good to see you still are out and about!

    All of that for a few hundred dollars per acre. Wow!
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  • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
    Of course the best time to start a gulch is now before things get really bad. Maybe if biden gets in, it really IS time to do it.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 3 weeks ago
      It should have been done 30 years ago, imo.
      Instead corruption grew and the wealthy who should have recognized the need and funded it became more corrupt and betrayed their country.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        You were scoping out the dome homes down here in Florida a few years ago. I enjoyed that visit.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 3 weeks ago
          So did I, jb.
          I wish that FL was safe from the Democrat socialist monsters. I'd buy a piece of land and build a dome or two. It may be better to take my limited assets farther south if the socialists take control again.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 1 month, 3 weeks ago
            The Democrat socialist monsters lurk below the dividing line between Martin County and Palm Beach County about 90 minutes south of me. There are enough of them that I am also concerned. My part of Florida is a paradise, but further south is too crowded for me.
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      • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
        The biggest problem with a gulch is going to be defense. While the state is powerful, they could just annihilate a gulch easily. We need to start a gulch when the state is weaker. the gulch will be a target, just like Trump is today. They would throw whatever they have against it
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        • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 3 weeks ago
          I agree. A Gulch needs either:
          a) anonymity (as in AS)
          b) very strong and infinitely reliable allies
          c) very strong defensive or MAD weapons
          imo, a and b are not likely and c is very expensive
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          • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
            In the meantime we have hiding in plain sight if Biden gets in.
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            • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
              There is no hiding n plain sight. With the overarching ability of big tech to keep anyone under constant monitoring, as in the PRC, there is no evading.
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              • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
                hiding in plain sight means not gettng on social media, not speaking or posting things that are in any way politically incorrect, dealing quietly with like minded people on mutually agreeable terms (mostly cash), and not being extravagant and likely to be noticed.
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                • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
                  For those of us who must subsist on retirement income, there is no no way to avoid as our cash flow is controlled by big tech. For even the few necessities we must have which cannot be produced by our skill but purchased, we are still visible.
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                  • Posted by term2 1 month, 3 weeks ago
                    how is it that big tech controls your cash flow?
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                    • Posted by Katrina41 1 month, 3 weeks ago
                      As retirees, we are on the radar with our S.S.and pensions, either receiving payments through the mail or direct deposit. We can still hide in plain sight, but it takes a bit of forethought if we really mean to seriously vanish while still visible. BTW, johnrobert2, Coronado is a sturdy boat. We lived aboard our 30' sloop for 12 years in the Puget Sound and I really miss those times before Seattle turned rotten.

                      We could inundate Texas with Gulchers and then declare independence when things come apart. The State constitution gives it the right to secede and return to being an independent country.
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                      • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
                        It would have to a part of Texas which still has a streak of cussedness to take that step, say ETx or Llano Estacado area where a predilection for independence still exists.
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