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The Lancet Rules Russian COVID-19 Vaccine "Safe And Effective"

Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 7 months ago to Technology
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Trial results reported Friday by the Lancet, the British medical journal responsible for publishing some of the earliest research on the coronavirus, found that Russia's Gameleya Institute-developed SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is both effective and safe, though scientists cautioned that long-term study is still required.

The vaccine, the researchers found, produced an antibody response in all test subjects while causing no serious adverse effects. The results mark the latest stamp of legitimacy for the vaccine developed by the world-reknowned Gameleya Institute, and show how the early and intense skepticism expressed by some in the West might have been premature.


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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    20 year life should not be a problem, take care with switches. I could give a lecture, only 40-50 years out of date!
    You would know about the 'bathtub curve'.

    Way off topic but some good news-
    Stella Immanuel, the Texas doc originally from Nigeria, who joined front-line-doctors in saying- HCQ works and is safe, was accused of something or other in a complaint to the Texas Medical Board -- now cleared by the Board.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. We build stereo amplifiers for home entertainment and our goal is for them to last 20+ years. We have had very few part failures but its early in the product life so testing process is an interest.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One thing not noted in American media was that the Chinese stopped travel from Wuhan to any other part of China, to contain the spread of the virus, while at the same time they sent over 100,000 workers from Wuhan to European factories, mostly in Italy.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From looking around, that idea cannot be easily dismissed.
    If it were planned, they would have well guessed the hysteria and the damage we are doing to ourselves. So much spying, many contacts, and good analysis too.
    My reading is that there were different mutations arriving in Europe than in N.America.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yup about the same era as WS.
    Components- capacitors, resistors, diodes, transistors, and that ilk. But not inductors, transformers.., I think as these were not produced on the same scale. I was in civil aviation and recall that military planes got older inferior devices as the testing specified by the agencies took longer and was more stringent. There were ways around that I think. As well, for similar reasons, military equipment had a lifetime double or more that of civil stuff.
    As WS says, extrapolating from tests to life takes some thought and guessing. I suppose the basic ideas on safety testing are much the same in pharmaceuticals. Yes many processes can be speeded up, maybe you do not need to test for five years, or two, but how many? If there should be a bad reaction that takes six months to detect, and you test for three months, then what? The answer could be in individual risk analysis, but in this case I'd go for HCQ.
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  • Posted by rhfinle 4 years, 7 months ago
    Did this come out of the Covid research the Russians hacked from the Brits?
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 7 months ago
    When safe is measured in weeks...
    And effective is measured as developing anti-bodies.

    Meanwhile, Dr. Peter Attia had a fellow on to explain the difference between "antibodies" and "antibodies".

    There are 2 possible antibodies. The kind that TAG the virus for destruction/pickup/macrophages.

    And the kind that tag the SPIKE, which make it inert, because it can no longer get into our cells.
    (My summary, not all viruses have a spike protein, but the concept is the same, the TAG covers the part that enables it to enter our cells. This is the GOLD STANDARD antibody!)

    I am not sure we know which kind of antibodies these people are making.
    Also, this virus appears to be able to Trigger a Cytokine Storm. This means PRIOR Immunity, even from a Vaccine could trigger this. This is what hits people so hard the second time in Dengue Fever. It is ALSO WHY the first SARS vaccine development was STOPPED. Because it caused this in the monkeys who were then exposed to the live virus!

    We are PLAYING with Fire! Kudos to the scientists for hitting certain goals. Hopefully we are NOT too smart for our own good here...
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  • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. 👍 Already take D supplements 10,000iu when I don't get sun. (I get sun in the garden and kayak on the lake when weather is good.)
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  • Posted by Idiocracy42 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While HCQ may be ridiculously difficult to get, you may want to look at Quercetin as used in the MATH+ protocol.

    Re: Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Working Group... For prophylaxis, the FLCCC recommends:
    Vitamin C — 500 mg
    Quercetin — 250 mg to 500 mg
    Zinc — 75-100 mg/day (acetate, gluconate or picolinate). Zinc lozenges are preferred. After one month, reduce the dose to 30 mg to 50 mg per day
    Melatonin (slow release) — Begin with 0.3 mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg at night
    Vitamin D3 — 1,000 to 4,000 IUs per day

    See:
    -- https://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...
    -- https://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 7 months ago
    What I find ironic, and very hypocritical, is that the Democrats, who have consistently badgered and harassed the anti-vaxxers, are now pronouncing any vaccine produced under Trump's "Hyperspeed" vaccine program as unsafe, advising everyone not to take any vaccines produced under this program. Apparently, now that everything is viewed through a political lens, they see any Trump victory, whether it's lifesaving or not, as something to be avoided at all cost. They're willing to fight him to the last drop of your blood.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd pick in order:
    1) vaccination,
    2) being fortunate,
    3) CoronaVirus infection,
    4) acting like aliens have invaded our planet, cowering behind masks, hand sanitizer and proximity, sacrificing recreation and playing sports (care NOTHING about spectator sports) and destroying our economy.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years, 7 months ago
    "Serious side effects?" Does that mean nobody died? Define minor vs major side effects short term and long term..
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to make medical devices. Their 510(k) premarket regulation just said that the product had to be "essentially similar to one in existence previously (that started out at 1976 but I think got updated to 1990). The "good manufactuing practices" regulation basically said that IF there was some injury, blame would fall on the idea that the company didnt do something to prevent it from happening. Like getting a ticket for getting in an accident- blaming the driver for not avoiding it.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is almost certainly an international attempt at election rigging. I wonder if Soros had any connection to or knowledge of the virus research, since he is clearly taking advantage of it.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would agree. effectiveness is determined by the results in terms of preventing covid19 infections. Easy enough to figure that one and word will get out pretty fast if its NOT effective
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree that the russians could be a good trading partner, in spite of their ruthless behavior when it comes to their internal dissidents !!

    As to a vaccine, all it has to be is effective enough to keep you from falling ill with corona, an not have bad side effects. I am not sure that the normal that phase 3 trials give enough assurances of that, or actually give unnecessary assurances of it. So the Russians might be right after all. We will have to see
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Plausible, or even put up to it by the evil totalitarians, with evidence showing visceral, unfounded drive to undermine his administration. No other president has been so attacked. I doubt Lincoln was as demonized by the Confederacy.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't want to compel anyone. Everyone should make their own decisions. This is not smallpox or polio, but it's not the flu either the hematology impact can be pretty serious. I have both high blood pressure and diabetes so I have the risk factors. My blood pressure medicine either makes it worse or protects me -- there is a clinical trial in progress to figure out which. We'll know next summer!

    I generally don't take flu shots because the mild side effects are generally about as bad as I get flu. On the other hand I got the whole set of pneumonia shots. Losing a 26 year old healthy employee to H1N1 back in 2009 made it clear to me just how useless modern medicine is if your lungs are full and you can't absorb oxygen.

    I'm taking 5000IU of D every day and am generally healthy. I told Jan that I couldn't remember the last time I was home sick. She reminded me of a serious gout attack that kept me home for several days -- and I replied "that was in the 1990's".
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  • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The longer this stonewalling and shutdown goes on, the more I become convinced that the Chinese created the virus intentionally, and released it intentionally because Trump showed he was going to protect Americans from the rest of the world, and outside the US, China had the most to lose. (Possibly a less damaging virus was released in China to give them deniability.) The Democrats have been proving how they would react to such a virus since 2016, and they are also to blame, imo, albeit perhaps not complicit in the planning.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think we should applaud them if in fact their vaccine works, is safe, and beat everyone else.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 7 months ago
    I dont care who develops an effective and safe vaccine. I would rather have that than the corona virus itself....
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand, but COVID is not smallpox or polio, and If given the choice, I'd take infection over what we've been compelled to do. This chicken shit flu is not killing me.

    The question is: "Do you support compelling me and countless other based on your own decision?"
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Vaccines can give that well-functioning immune system a peek at the foe before you experience a significant infection. Counting on building my immune reaction based on encountering the infectious version in the wild is more risk than I want to take.
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