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The Lancet Rules Russian COVID-19 Vaccine "Safe And Effective"

Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 8 months ago to Technology
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Trial results reported Friday by the Lancet, the British medical journal responsible for publishing some of the earliest research on the coronavirus, found that Russia's Gameleya Institute-developed SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is both effective and safe, though scientists cautioned that long-term study is still required.

The vaccine, the researchers found, produced an antibody response in all test subjects while causing no serious adverse effects. The results mark the latest stamp of legitimacy for the vaccine developed by the world-reknowned Gameleya Institute, and show how the early and intense skepticism expressed by some in the West might have been premature.


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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting. He kicked out SOME of the Banksters.

    IMO, he is THEIR Trump. The majority of what he is doing is actually helping the average Russian. Albeit with a slight criminal bent...

    In Russian Politics, you either play for keeps or you are summarily destroyed/killed. I think he is playing for keeps.

    But having been there a few times, Russia has really been improving under his watch.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 years, 7 months ago
    This is excellent!

    Personally, don't need it. Along with an overwhelming majority of people, we have a vaccine that can produce antibodies. It is called a well-functioning immune system, operating in a healthy body.

    Make the vaccine available to people who need it. Let people who are susceptible/compromised wear masks and hide out. Let the vast majority of people get back to life, which we should've done on day 1.

    Others being afraid does not compel me to servitude. However, others being afraid does ruin the economy. and compromise general happiness. This fear mongering is overblown, and stems from only two sources:
    1. Ignorant people, and
    2. Evil people parochially seeking to ruin the world, to ensure Trump is not re-elected, such that they gain power.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reasonable unification of thought is a process....a very long one in these times. I have an idea that we are going through the extremes of what chaos theory expresses in the Mandelbrot set equation.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good news. Too bad that won't resurrect the doctors videos or change the idiotic policies of the FDA. I'd like to get some HCQ prescribed so I can go to the Lone Star Audiofest in October.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I remember in the 1960's and 1970's the computer technicians would vary the voltage to the high end and low end of the range to look for marginal components before they failed. They finally came to the conclusion they were creating more problems than they were preventing.

    The probability of a bad reaction to a vaccine decreases relatively rapidly through time. Yes, it's possible that you would be just fine but 20 year later have a reaction but not likely.

    We've now been several months since the small group of phase I subjects were injected and now there are thousands of phase III. Reactions seem typical, injection soreness, mild fever -- you are activating the immune system after all.

    I have some of the risk factors so when a vaccine that doesn't have unusual side effects and even seems to be working is available, I want it. Covid-19 does not seem like something I want to get immunity to by catching it and surviving.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with most of that. Yes a lot has already been done, a lot can be speeded-up especially the regulatory form filling stuff. My concern is on how fast real human trials can be done, how many weeks, months or years do you wait before an adverse reaction can be be ruled out? You can test on one hundred subjects for one year, and all is ok. Does that mean that 20 people are ok for 5 years with that medication?

    Back last century I was in testing for reliability and life of electronic components. There was something called 'accelerated' life tests. The name had the right 'cache'. Then a claim is made that testing at 50C higher temperature over 6 months was the equivalent of operating conditions for 6 years, well there is some, weak, evidence for that.
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 4 years, 7 months ago
    Putin has established a dictatorial oligopoly. His rule is somewhat benevolent to those who agree with him. For those who don’t agree, poison is the preferred solution. At his best, he can screw up elections in the US. At his worst....Stalin, again?
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's really misleading to think about how long a vaccine "typically" takes when technology improves. The genome of the virus was determined and published in January, vaccine makers started with that before they even had samples.

    Normally you do Phase I, analyze the results, Phase II, analyze the results, Phase III, analyze the results get approval and begin production. The "Warp speed" program has overlapped the phases, planning and starting the next phase while still finishing the prior one. The vaccine is in production even though phase III is a bit over a month into it. Actually, I believe, there are three different vaccines in production -- so that if the are approved they will go out right away.

    And they are talking about due to an emergency that we separate safe from effective. If the vaccine is safe but we are not sure off how effective it is, it could be conditionally approved.

    I've always thought that if we needed an FDA (and those here would certainly challenge that), their mission should be limited to safe. The marketplace can deal with effective.

    I also know that many here, for good reasons, do not like vaccines. They do trigger the immune system and stuff can happen when you do that, but in this case, I'm ready to roll up my sleeve if we have one that seems safe and looks like it is generating a decent immune response.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 4 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah...I see regulations as extensions of fear that prevent exposure to learning.
    Can't remember how many times I have heard "there's a law....", "this shouldn't happen"... and i ask; Have you ever seen one sheet of paper stop a bullet?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 8 months ago
    I wonder, did they really do it?...maybe so, they don't seem to be ruled by the dumb idiots we have here...it would seem to be in Russia's best interest to do well for it's people...in general, they are no real threat to power and Russia needs the best and most qualified to survive.

    Am I giving Russia too much credit here?
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  • Posted by $ Commander 4 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While I will agree with you on opting out of vaccination, a friend of mine spent over 15 years as an internal Fed regulatory compliance auditor for Ely Lilly. Her accounting for costs and time of development are 85% due to compliance regs.
    And these institutions are the ones that push the regs, in my opinion, to preclude equitable competition. IE: every level of cost of compliance must be accounted for as a "profitable" step toward production distribution. Similar in auto safety compliance testing.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think they'd be a great ally and trading partner.
    They have a lot to offer, but I'm not sure they can trust us any more than we are able to de-program ourselves and trust them.

    I agree on the vaccine. I'd rather take HCQ and let the more gullible get the vaccines.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 8 months ago
    Russians have a well earned reputation for brilliance in mathematics, aerodynamics and several other branches of science.
    When it comes to the often long boring slogging of quality control and assurance, testing, and the manufacture of reliable products, maybe, or not.
    Unfair stereotype? Yes but still.

    When a vaccine typically takes 3, 4, or 5 years to design, test, and produce, then I hear that the Russians have got one in production after six months, I think- include me out for a few years.
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