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IMO, Charged Kid Only Guilty Of Self Defense

Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 6 days ago to News
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~~and immaturely wanting to be a vigilante protector of businesses at the inexperienced age of 17. Me dino would not allow my teenager to do such a thing, especially in another town, but I can recall sneaking out of the house at Kyle's age.
In the video, we first see Kyle Rittenhouse being chased by one punk while carrying a semiautomatic AR-15 or what Bolshevik Beto O'Dork calls "A WEAPON OF WARRRR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFqHy...
The punk appears to strike Kyle from behind. More punks are seen in pursuit as Kyle runs on. Kyle then falls. Can't tell if he fell or was hit by something thrown. That does not matter.
What matters is that several punks attacked Kyle when he was down on his back.
Kyle opens fire. He only shoots attackers, who receives Darwin Awards, one posthumously, for attacking someone with a firearm. No one else. One punk raises his hands. Kyle simply gets up and leaves.
He walks on tries to tell police in several vehicles what had just happened.
Me dino hopes Kyle is found not guilty.
SOURCE URL: https://headlinewealth.com/texas-legal-foundation-to-defend-kyle-rittenhouse-after-gofundme-ban/

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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    Update: Eye witness told Tucker Carlson on Fox last night that the punk Kyle shot in the arm was running at him with a gun in his hand. I assume the "gun" in "a hand" was a pistol.
    That still means the wounded punk still wins the Darwin Award. You don't run into the point blank range of a shooter with a pistol in your hand. You should already be shooting at the shooter.
    Ahem! Me dino has had a lot of firearms training in the past.
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    • Posted by $ Commander 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      The reserve this kid shows in the midst of conflict is outstanding. He must have had substantial safety and use training.
      I saw another vid from WTMJ where the Sheriff says "We didn't invite them (militia)"....of course not stupid. That's what militia is for.
      A 26 and 36 y/o as "victims", we would think, should know better than to engage in combative behavior against one who is obviously retreating. Unfortunately STUPID got fixed the hard way. What worries me is the potential for harm of Kyle in the future.
      Because he was under 18 and carrying the weapon is a violation of WI law. WI is an open carry state over age 18. This is the only place where I can see the defense getting mired.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 6 days ago
        Kyle is from Illinois where me dino suspects the open carry law is 18 there too.
        Bottom line~~know a state's freaking laws before you do anything within its boundaries.
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        • Posted by $ Commander 2 weeks, 6 days ago
          I agree. However....standing defense on private property and then being forced away from said property may pertain. I was looking through the charges...pretty broad spectrum and they came fast. Is the DA filing in this manner to prevent long term prosecutions upon this kid? Might be plausible.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    All 3 he shot turned out to be Felons!!! That tells me someone is paying these scum to riot. That means there is a domestic terrorist organization at work here. Kyles life will be ruined, just like the "White Hispanic" guy [Zimmerman] in Florida, he was a dumbass for being in that situation, but if it wasn't for 17 year olds with firearms who should have not thought better....we would still be under British rule. I salute you Kyle....even if you should have stayed at home.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      Think of all the cowardly and/or intellectually misguided American corporations donating big money into a BLM run by admitted Marxists.
      Don't think the BLM leaders are pocketing all of it with a campaign to terror to run. Ain't just billionaire traitors like Soreass pumping money into their remaking of America.
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 weeks, 4 days ago
        It actually could be the Russians or the communist Chinese, although I suspect that authoritarians like that would never come up with the idea of doing so, as they could never conceive of the stupidity of the american political system which will bun it's own house down to defeat someone like Trump.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 4 days ago
          Between Russia and the CCP, I'd bet the CCP the most likely to be behind something like that.
          After all, my favorite conspiracy is that, whether Covd-19 got loose in Wuhan accidentally or deliberately, the CCP biologically attacked the world in a hope of somehow getting that troublesome Trump out of their hair in exchange for someone more pliable at the bargaining table.
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          • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 weeks, 4 days ago
            Suspect it was just bad luck that it was a worse than usual flu this year....but since it hit them....they purposely made sure it propagated outside China while quarantining Wuhan from the rest of their country. All on the theory that if everyone has it the net affect on China isn't as bad as it would be if only china had it.
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 4 days ago
              That's another viable theory. Me dino read lots of Sherlock Holmes during visits to a laundromat during the Seventies. He worked with theories until story by story working his way with evidence and reason to the truth. Yet what is elementary, my dear Watson, is me dino ain't no Sherlock Holmes.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    I was upset this morning on how they news is REALLY trying to twist this story. They showed the photos of two victims (looked like two bunhead soy boys) who were heroes who "died trying to disarm an active gunmen". I get the impression that he was "active" because he was being attacked by them.

    I'm growing tired of what appears to be violent mass marxist demonstrations being shoved down our throats and rebranded as groups of "demonstrators". This is very dangerous territory and the news media needs to get back to reality on this. Last night here in town I watched on local tv a group of about 300 of these waify, bun head types taking over our downtown area - one seen swinging a big sword. Good lord...
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    • Posted by ohiocrossroads 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      "News media needs to get back to reality on this." After the last three years of bogus investigations and the steady drumbeat of fake news keeping false narratives alive, it's evident that the news media doesn't do reality anymore. They're going to keep spreading their lies. The best we can hope for is a majority of people stop listening to them.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      Fake News isn't helping the real life rioting situation one bit.
      Just had a thought. Keep it up, Fake News, Kyle Rittenhouse may bite you back like Nick $andman did.
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 2 weeks, 4 days ago
        Unless I am mistaken, Kyle has obtained the services of the lawyer who helped Mr. Sandmann out. And a few other lawyers to help, as well. Some of them (perhaps all?) are serving pro bono, perhaps in response to Kyle's GoFundMe being deleted. (Editing to add: I see Dobrien has already mentioned this, below).
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        • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks, 4 days ago
          The removal of GoFundMe efforts, the de-platforming of common sense podcast hosts...all of this is really spooky in this country. It looks like we're at the end of a great run...
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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    Bravo to the attorney LLin Wood. Clearly this young man was under attack and he was engaged in self-defense. The paid agitators paid a heavy price going after this human. Lessons in the real world can be costly. Time is ripe for fighting in the streets boys. The silent majority is starting to turn up the volume.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Disclaimer: I am not reading all 50 comments.

    I am a CCW holder and I train so I am hard to kill and hard to convict. There are 5 elements of self defense, and you must meet all 5. If any one is missing, you have a problem. The kid made all 5 in both incidents. Of course the best way to win a gun fight is to not be there.

    If you are interested in learning more about how to do things correctly so you are less likely to end up in jail I highly recommend you check out www.lawofselfdefense.com.
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  • Posted by arklatexbob 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    "minors that are 16 years of age or older can openly carry long guns, provided they are not considered "short-barreled rifles" or "short-barreled shotguns" and are not otherwise prohibited from possession of firearms." stolen from Wikipedia, but accurate."
    That quote is from Wikipedia but it seems to be accurate. The gun was owned by a Wisconsin resident and was on loan. It was never carried across state lines. I don't think there is even a weapons charge here.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    Indeed -- what you have reported is what transpired. And those attackers are just that -- Punks. Soft wood. A sum of zeros. Darwin awards served up quite nicely. I find affinity with Kyle. I also have an AR, the training and the mental willingness to put down a rabid dog if the dog engages in the initiation of violence. I hope that many on the left see the videos of what took place and begin to truly wake up. The leftists consist of a mob of zeroes. They literally do not know how to fight. Members of the libertarian / propertarian / conservatives have a sense of self: self-worth, self-control, self-autonomy. They are individuals and will engage when confronted with threats to their person and property. I get the gut feeling that the heat is being deliberately turned up -- and we will see more of this as individuals on the 'right' take up arms against the mindless leftist mobs.
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    • Posted by $ Commander 2 weeks, 1 day ago
      Here is my experience. 41 years ago, deer hunting in N.E. Wis., 16 y/o with 10 years of safety and use training. Because I was going into heavy cover I dressed over 90% blaze. The morning "move" had finished and I began a very cautions still hunt through an ice film crusted lowland. At least 4 shots (rifle) were fired in my direction. I'm glad I don't remember the stream of invective I issued forth. And then I heard the laughing and two more shots. I am very fortunate for the training I had, as there were no dead drunks that day. To this day I have very occasional bouts of anxiety and have sought counsel with friends who are combat survivors. I really feel for this kid and what his emotional future holds.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    FWIW, I believe that a lot of these "demonstrators" are amped up on drugs then turned lose. A coworker of mine watched one run right out into traffic on his drive to work a while back and get run over. Snapped his leg and he acted like he still had a mission to disrupt the commute of the common folk. Certainly sounded like drugs were involved. Dope em up and wind em up. This may be why they are trying to attack a guy sitting on the ground with a black rifle by swinging their skateboards.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    I keep recalling the original version of The Day The Earth Stood Still. My favorite line of Klaatu is "you need to understand that by threatening danger, you face danger." These mobs of indoctrinated social justice terrorists are instructed to make threats, and get in people's faces, but not to attack unless the victim takes physical action. That is why most of the people out there are girls. They can then play the sex card and complain that "you hit a girl". Then the news media can blame the victim. If the target does take physical action, they have enforcers that are armed to swoop in and beat the crap out of the victim. Kyle short-circuited that strategy by taking a gun to a fist or knife fight.
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  • Posted by GaryL 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    When the police, out of fear of retribution, refuse to do their job, the job still needs to be done. If this anarchy is allowed to go on much longer I suspect we shall see a lot more of this from good, law abiding, citizens protecting themselves and their properties. I can't determine right or wrong from the BS info we have so far however I do feel a line was crossed when the 17 year old left the security of his own property with a gun.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    Scott Adams says: "All Videos Lie"
    Because they are from one angle, and potentially clipped to constrain things further.

    Think about the FIRST George Floyd Video?
    All of that LEFT OUT Contextual Information, like saying "I can't breathe" when he was standing! Kinda puts things in perspective. (Not that I agree with kneeling on someone who is cuffed, and on their belly).
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    Wouldn't carry a long gun into a crowd like that. Too unwieldy in close quarters. Automatic pistol or submachine gun would be more tactically appropriate. He's guilty of weapons charges in Wisconsin, I think the AR15 is illegal there. There was no other reason for him to be there other than to cause trouble. Just like all the terrorists on the other side. Recklessness of youth; he didn't know what he was getting into and didn't think through what could happen. Is there a defense fund to which I can contribute? His legal team should take the same tack that liberal murderer's legal teams take; blame others. The Dimocrat politicians set up the situation by not doing their jobs. Call the governor of Wisconsin, and mayor of Kenosha as witnesses, and ask them why they didn't take action to stop the riots.
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  • Posted by Arthgallo 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    I think there are a lot more Kyle's out there, especially after Portland Saturday Night. Afraid even sensible folks have had just about enough of this and it will not end without more guns being fired. When one segment of society becomes violent and takes the rights of others, eventually, hopefully, the other side says enough and if government doesn't protect "rights" someone else will. Just my thoughts
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      Antifa or BLM hurting a loved one would make me snap. Fortunately for an old dino on a cane--who can't duplicate that kid's moves--I live in Alabama far from any trouble like that. Nevertheless, Birmingham (a very short drive from where I live) IS run by black Dems now. All it takes is a black thug pulling a knife or gun on a white cop. Maybe even a black cop..
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Firearms expert Massad Ayoob was interviewed recently on the radio about this case. Ayoob is a former law enforcement officer and has been a firearms and self-defense expert who has written articles in gun magazines for several decades. I remember reading his articles 40 years ago. Ayoob said he watched the video and stated that Rittenhouse clearly exercised self-defense. He was chased by a mob and fired only after he was attacked. The first guy he shot had just thrown a lighted Molotov cocktail at him, and he was also struck in the head be a skateboard. These antifa and BLM insurrectionists are communists, organized and paid for by someone(?) - George Soros? Communist Chinese? I think we'll find out. These pigs are begging for war and we need to meet the enemy and prevail!
    https://massadayoobgroup.com/
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      I won't call myself a firearms expert but I'm a trained shooter who saw what Ayoob saw. Save for the Molotov cocktail. Heard someone else say that on Fox News last night.
      Evil sadistic thug wanted to burn Rittenhouse alive. Glad he was rewarded with a .223,
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 weeks, 4 days ago
    The Radical Left would like nothing better than to prosecute the young who is trying to protect himself as opposed to the rioters who are trying to assault him.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 3 days ago
      Those rioters are but an extension of the Radical Left and any opposition is the enemy.
      Okay by me. Me dino considers the Radical Left to be the domestic enemy of the USA and that goes for Fake News too.
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