Quid Pro Quo Joe Biden, “Every governor should mandate mandatory mask wearing." Anyone doubt Biden will FORCE Mask Wearing and Vaccines if elected?

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 8 months ago to Philosophy
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Mask-wearing in all of the major cities – from Los Angeles to Miami – has been in place and followed by pressure and community shaming for months. Compliance in most of these places has been off the charts, according to the NYT. Yet the virus is still spreading more than before the mandate. The virus is now spreading in Japan, Hong Kong, and the Philippines, which have near universal mask-wearing. At what point does the mask cult have to provide evidence of the effectiveness of these unconstitutional mandates, and at what point do benchmarks have to be met to maintain such a draconian and life-altering requirement?

Once again, I don’t think that it is wrong to wear a mask at all. In fact, for many people I believe that it is the correct choice.

But if we let them mandate masks, it will just be a matter of time before they start mandating that we all take the coming COVID-19 vaccine. Already, many in the mainstream media are quite distressed about the fact that polls have shown that most Americans don’t plan to get the vaccine at all. The following comes from a USA Today article entitled “Experts worry that a COVID-19 vaccine won’t help if not enough people are willing to get one”…
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 8 months ago
    Science be damned. I wear an N95 mask in stores because it's a MERV 14 filter that actually works. The reason why all the masking up hasn't worked is because the masks people are wearing are very marginal at stopping the virus and people don't learn other ways to defend themselves from viruses. They are just "lining us up" for a mandatory vaccine. They've been wanting to do this to the adult population for decades. Now's their chance. When they did it to kids in California nobody cared...you know the rest...
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  • Posted by mcsandberg 3 years, 8 months ago
    The basic problem with understanding these viruses is that very, very few people understand what 120 nanometers means. That is the approximate size of the coronavirus. Hmm.. A human hair is about 80,000 - 100,000 nanometers in diameter.

    That still is hard to understand. Let's move up a bit. A rice grain is a bit more than a tenth of an inch in diameter. So, what do 100,000 grains of rice lined up side by side look like? Oh, almost as long as an aircraft carrier. Now we can see why the masks are completely ineffective. It's not trying to filter out a mosquito with a chain link fence. It's trying to filter out grains of rice with aircraft carrier size fibers!

    That's why no clinical studies have produced statistically significant results https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/2... .
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      While I agree the benefit is unclear, masks do not try to filter the virus. They try to filter and stop the particles that the virus travel in. In that respect they are successful and reduce the amount of virus that reaches the part covered by the mask.
      That does not mean I think it should be mandatory. People deserve all the facts and they should be free to decide for themselves.
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      • Posted by mcsandberg 3 years, 8 months ago
        The CDC suspects that the virus can travel in fine aerosols. You heard that right, the CDC doesn't know:

        It is essential to note that the mechanisms of person-to-person transmission in the community have not been fully determined. Controversy remains over the role of transmission through fine-particle aerosols (3,46). Transmission by indirect contact requires transfer of viable virus from respiratory mucosa onto hands and other surfaces, survival on those surfaces, and successful inoculation into the respiratory mucosa of another person. All of these components of the transmission route have not been studied extensively. The impact of environmental factors, such as temperature and humidity, on influenza transmission is also uncertain (47). These uncertainties over basic transmission modes and mechanisms hinder the optimization of control measures. [ https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/... ]

        The CDC has not even done the basic research into virus transmission methods. Just why do we need to spend money on them?
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    • Posted by Andy 3 years, 8 months ago
      What's the smallest thing that fit through a mask. I guess it's something smaller than a hair but way bigger than the coronavirus. Some of the comments say masks work down to 300 nanometers and that's probably the best case scenario.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 8 months ago
    The ONLY reason for this continued nonsense is to avoid overloading health care. This is not even remotely in jeopardy any more (if it ever was).

    Even if there is a vaccine, we are all getting COVID, just like we all get the flu. Perhaps the response will be better after a vaccine, maybe.

    I would rather have COVID and freedom, than be forced to hide at home and be forced to behave like a criminal in public. If people want to cower in the shadows and wear space suits in public, fine, go ahead. Forcing perfectly healthy people to make these people feel vindicated in their fear is infuriating and inappropriate.

    Separately -

    The COVID fear will almost instantly disappear with a change in administration. The media will proclaim Biden has resolved it, the lemmings will go back to work and be happy, and they will associate COVID with Trump.
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 8 months ago
    The part that says- more mask wearing, but the virus is still spreading.
    Does this prove the uselessness of masks? Maybe. I am not sure because the test used nearly all the time everywhere is dubious-
    the website of a SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR test kit manufacturer says in red letters-
    for research purposes only. Not to be used for diagnosis. .. the genetic sequences amplified may be indistinguishable from those of other covid and non-covid viruses, etc..

    Apart from that, they are used are in medical procedures so they must work.
    But see-
    Surgical masks do not affect/prevent infection during surgery
    Links to several papers, not refuted.
    result of w/wo tests-
    minimum contamination can best be achieved by not wearing a mask at all!
    http://12160.info/m/blogpost?id=26497...
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 8 months ago
    I was horrified when DeWine's Dr. Amy said we need to be more like Chinese and love our masks. I knew then these folks had not studied the research on masks, just politics. If you need to feel safe with an immunity issue, go for it, but to make it a criminal act to refuse as DeWine has done, ridiculous! I went 4 months as a senior, no mask, shopping as usual. Then I have to have a mask to get in anywhere, and I have had to fight off asthma attacks after grocery shopping in one. Masks can be dangerous, as well a give wearer a false sense of security. This is not being addressed. Next it will be vaccines by force, and those of us who have reacted in the past (my brain swelled), will be unfortunate casualties.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 8 months ago
    The idiocy of wearing a mask outside in the open air seems patently absurd. Ultraviolet light from the sun alone would render the virus inert. The atmosphere contains dust, pollen, fungus spores, etc which could cause other problems before the virus aerosols would. I have read some articles on-line that fungus spores also renders COVID -19 virus inert. I'll admit that wearing a mask in stores is acceptable. In regards to the vaccines may have an adverse health reaction for many people. So, is Puppet Biden going to outlaw Hydroxochloriquine to force the vaccine?
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 8 months ago
    Maybe biden could go a step further and wear a tightly fitting plastic bag over HIS head to guarantee no corona virus could possible get into him
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 8 months ago
    Perhaps another view will take over the ruling of what, how, when, and if to wear a mask. I remember when people used to wear a mask to rob a 7-11 Store, or even a bank. I think Dr. Atlas will be throwing out some more regulations and start to turn this thing around. It's just a matter of timing now with the election coming up.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 8 months ago
    i guess I will become a Two Tier Criminal. I'm keeping my guns, as I have kept my magazines and so called assault weapons, and I'm still not going to wear a mask.

    I just stay away from people when I'm out and about, and so far I have not shot anyone, at least not since I returned home from Vietnam.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 8 months ago
    Socialism is all about the Animal Farm pigs on to bossing all the other critters. Stupid rioting kids are too ignorant to know that.
    Speaking of ignorance, me dino remembers a young man smart enough to be admitted to college being asked on campus who lost the Second World War. He hopefully asked back, "China?"
    Today I heard on the radio that a teacher union wants history dropped from the curriculum. Yeah, socialist wannabe commies really do dislike history being taught.
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