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The implementation of Agenda 21

Posted by Mitch 3 years, 8 months ago to Politics
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The events happening around the world seem more intentional then circumstantial; the response to these threats are very telling, almost all are contradictory to the logical reactions. For example, allowing the “peaceful” protest or the media onslaught against hydroxychloroquine. These are an opposite reaction any “normal” American would normally have to the data provided. All of this is push through the MSM with government officials taking actions against the benefit of a free people. For example, we should have never locked down and force people to stay home, close non-essential businesses or required our free people to wear masks. We should have put an immediate stop to the looting and arrest the people who placed the palettes of bricks in our cities. Why not? Why is this happening?

Though the reactions of China and other world countries to the corona virus, I think they expected it to be worst then it was, a letdown we should say? COVID-19 was no accident and I’m ready to state this loud and clear, too many coincidences to be an accident. The same with BLM, too many coincidences to be an accident.

Already, I head rumblings about disarmament… The phrase “cold dead hands” comes to mind.

Next up, it’s our old friend Bubonic Plaque.

“Preparation for de-population” sounds like some thing right out of Hitlers Germany. I will not sit idly by and allow this to happen.

What is next, are we all sheep being led to a slaughter? If we knew who, what and why, we could identify, shine light, and rid them from our country. This is happening from the inside, which is the only way or great country could ever fall, from the inside. I started to think about what they are hiding and what they could their end-goals be. Of everything I could think of, Agenda 21 makes the most sense.

When I first head about Agenda 21, I thought this as all about conspiracy crap but now I’ve changed my mind. I think it’s real and we are witnessing the beginning of the end. They been working on this for years, it’s time we woke up.

Mitch
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  • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
    There is no "Agenda 21" conspiracy driving the destructive trends in this country. The irrationalism and statism are the result of fundamental ideas of collectivism, altruism, and anti-reason becoming increasingly more widely accepted as they are promulgated by professional intellectuals and spread from there. Ayn Rand explained and discussed this at length. Hysterical Youtube conspiracy theorists seeking anti-intellectual explanations have nothing to offer.

    The irrational and evil statements selectively quoted from those associated with the UN are no more than echoes of the same same irrationalism heard almost everywhere else. The UN has no authority to impose them and no ability to operate a global conspiracy controlling the fate of nations.

    The "Agenda 21" conspiracy theorists are seeking some central, unifying cause to explain a wide variety of destructive events -- they latch onto the UN because of the extreme statements that can be plucked from there, usually from foreigners even more irrational than their counterparts in the US, and the imagery of a central governmental role for the UN, which it does not have.

    Unifying explanations are found in intellectual principles implemented by different people who accept them and follow their consequences, not all-powerful conspiracies operating in a philosophical vacuum.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      ewy, me and you are on the same page... I agree that I used to think it was a bunce of non-sense until my daughter over heard me and my wife speaking about this new thing on preparation for depopulation. I stated that it was wrong and sounded like something out of Hitler's Germany. My daughter piped up with it's just birth control, wtf... Why are the schools prepping my daughter?
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      • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
        I'm just saying look deeper, it seems like the most plausible explanation for the actions of others. I agree that I don't have hard facts but if you are truly interested in a one world government, you wouldn't just come out and say that, would you?

        Too many incoherent actions being taking by people in power, actions contrary to the benefit of our country. Their actions make no sense, Occam’s razor implies here as a theory to begin testing. I know the UN has published a lot on this Agenda 21 and the goals. I want to do some research on this to attempt to align what I’m seeing and the goals of Agenda 21.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
          The fact that someone does not say something is not evidence that he believes it. There is no "Occam's razor" justifying conspiracy theories bypassing direct evidence of what people are doing and why they are doing it. That the UN publishes statist-collectivist ideology does not mean that the UN originated it or that it has the capability to impose it either directly through government power or through a secret conspiracy controlling the world.

          If you want to understand what is happening then look at the fundamental ideas that people hold, and why they hold them, as motives for their own actions, and how in fact they have an influence. Speculating an invisible secret global conspiracy is not explanation.
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          • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
            I never said I have evidence... The scientific method works by observing and postulating a theory. This I’ve done and is far as I have made it… I’m saying to you that its highly suspicious that the actions being taken by government official seem to be in line with the goals of Agenda 21.
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            • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
              Not having evidence claimed to not be necessary is a hallmark of the conspiracy theorist insisting that the lack of evidence is explained by the "suspicious" secrecy of the alleged conspiracy.

              That is not science. Science does not make up hidden causes, without proof and without regard for causality, in the name of explanation.
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              • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
                EWV, Why has Cuomo imported 6300 Covid patients to nursing homes or how about Newsom importing Covid patients from Mexico?

                Tell me how a man of power makes such decisions? Tell me how a man of power that makes these decisions doesn’t have a hidden agenda (pun intended). Tell me that these guys are honest, with upmost integrity? Maybe Agenda 21 isn’t the hidden agenda but there is a hidden agenda, no doubt in my mind. Hope you see the light soon and open your eyes.
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                • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
                  Cuomo did not "import 6300 Covid patients to nursing homes". In accordance with what he said at the time, NY was relieving the stress on hospitals that had been overwhelmed by moving elderly incapacitated patients to nursing homes, where they would ordinarily go. His order said that nursing homes could not "discriminate" against virus patients, which is fully in accordance with the rest of the left's demands that we not use our minds in common sense to be discriminating in our own choices and actions, without regard to the damage. They are altruist/collectivists who demand that we sacrifice.

                  Leftist "Men of power" are not puppets who check in with UN secret conspiracy leaders for orders. They know what to do in accordance with their own politics and openly stated premises, which are not "hidden".

                  "Pastor Tim's" hysteria over his vague speculations are not a reliable source for anything, and he did not give any evidence or even a coherent statement of facts. Don't be so gullible as to follow every sensationalist pundit spouting from his YouTube podium. Anyone can do that now and a lot of nuts are out there feeding hysteria.

                  Here is one news account of the California governor's "importing" of patients from "Mexico" last May https://www.pe.com/2020/05/27/riversi...

                  "Sixty-three novel coronavirus patients who lived in Imperial County or were being treated there are now in Riverside County hospitals, officials said Wednesday, May 27, amid unfounded rumors that the county is being forced to take in COVID-19 patients from Mexico.

                  "YouTube videos and Facebook posts, without citing evidence, alleged that, per Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order, coronavirus patients were being airlifted from Mexico to Riverside County hospitals. County spokeswoman Brooke Federico said she’s not aware of any such order.

                  "Last Friday, Supervisor V. Manuel Perez said 16 Americans living in Mexico, who had been hospitalized with COVID-19 in Imperial County, were being transferred to Riverside County.

                  "Of the 63 patients with connections to Imperial County, 51 were transferred from Imperial County hospitals while another 12 are Imperial County residents who walked into Riverside County hospitals, a Riverside County news release states."

                  If a governor does bring patients from Mexico or some other country it would be for the usual altruistic-collectivist motives that have caused the entire foreign aid global welfare state mentality, not secret orders from a hidden UN conspiracy with no ability to do any of this. Notice that "Pastor Tim" himself advocated sending free supplies to Mexico at our forced expense.

                  Your having "no doubt in [your] mind of "hidden agenda" as the anti-intellectual conspiracy 'explanation' does not make it true or even plausible. "Hope you see the light soon and open your eyes" is a religious argument, not something for an Ayn Rand forum. We do not gain knowledge by "opening our eyes" to belief in order to "see the light".
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                  • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
                    ewv, I think your still missing the point, this is a discussion. All of this on the surface is odd. As soon as I can, I'm digging deeper.

                    Why are you so supportive of all of this crap going on? Aren't a bit curious as to where those bricks came from?

                    This is a discussion... You need the flexibility to hypothesize an argument and not be afraid of failing. It's a question that these actions don't seem normal. This conversation is taking a guess as to why. You seem to have a problem with this?
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                    • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
                      I do not miss the point and do not find what is happening odd and inexplicable. It was predicted long ago as the consequences of the kinds of basic ideas that were and still are being spread. It is not a big mystery. Ayn Rand discussed it at length. "Guessing" "hidden agendas" in "conspiracies" while ignoring the ideas that people follow in their actions is not an explanation. In particular, the "Agenda 21" UN conspiracy mongering has been promoted for decades and only serves as a diversion from the causes and actions of the anti-private property rights environmentalist movement.
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                      • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
                        Ewv, I need to apologize to you as I didn't understand you are missing the basic premise of this post. You are, are under the impression that this whole covid thing is real. You are trying to hijack this post for your own needs, which seems like self gratification over you illogical position, if this is real. I'm sorry, I didn't understand your point of view. This post is setup to attempt to explain why. I can create a "special"thread just for you so we can argue with you over if this really exists or not.
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                        • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
                          I did not "hijack" your thread. You explicitly pushed the UN "Agenda 21" conspiracy theory that you went on to describe as a "hidden agenda". Rejecting conspiracy mongering is not an "illogical position" and not "hijacking" a thread.

                          I am "under the impression" that that "this whole covid thing is real" because it is. A lot of people have died from the disease. That the riots and the rest are "not an accident" does not make the whole "covid thing" a conspiracy.

                          Please do not "create a 'special thread'" to argue over whether the disease "really exists or not". This is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum not conspiracy central.
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            • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
              For me as a mere mortal, diving into someone else’s head for the evidence is not possible.
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              • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
                Your lack of evidence from an impossible act is not an excuse to make up conspiracy theories as a substitute. If you want to understand then learn about the kinds of ideas that are being spread, where they came from and why, who is applying them in what way, and what the rational alternative is. Speculation about hidden conspiracies operating in a vacuum as if ideas don't matter is not a substitute.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 8 months ago
    In one odd way, this could actually work against the Agenda 21 vision. Agenda 21 pictured herding the human population into densely populated cities, ostensibly for the efficiencies that result, and to "save the planet." However, working remotely, getting things delivered, and distance learning are becoming part of the "new normal" to reduce the spread of a pandemic.

    Rather than resist the need for space, I say embrace it. Spread the population out and rely on delivery and remote operations as much as possible. The Silicon valley engineer can buy a home where he can afford it, and work from home, rather than live in his car.

    Remote operations, telemedicine, and delivery will reduce the need for mass transportation and travel in general. Allowing people to move out of densely packed cities and into smaller communities will reduce crime and disease.

    Done properly, we can "flip the script" on those who want to submit us to autocratic rule by oligarchy.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      Sorry, I intended to reply earlier… I agree with you that dispersing our population would work against the Agenda 21 goals. I’ve never seen a bureaucracy implement a plan without unattended consequences, usually an unsuccessful mess and the bystanders have to live with the results.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 8 months ago
    Agenda 21 / 2030 is very real. I am experiencing it personally. I own several acres of farmland in Eastern Washington. Attempts to develop the land have been met with nearly continuous road blocks from the local city authorities. Their hands are tied as a result of the WGMA (Washington Growth Management Act). This thing places numerous restrictions on development under the banner of Preventing Urban Sprawl. There are other components of red tape regarding maintaining 'undisturbed shrub steppe lands'-- essentially, if the land is undisturbed, it is to be maintained in that state, or some portion of the land is to be squared off for preservation. On top of this, we have the Native Lands issues -- if, during development, some of the trash left by one of the Original Tribes is found, then that portion of land will need to be squared off for preservation. This is just plain open theft -- technocrats and unelected bureaucrats placing liens on private property.

    It just gets worse -- the property taxes on my home went up 28% this past year … and the property taxes on my raw land went up 40%. Approx 70% of the line items in the tax bill are for Govt. Schools. We do have lovely schools here - beautiful palaces. They are empty right now though.

    Essentially -- a confiscatory wealth tax is exacted against property owners while simultaneously making it impossible to use their property.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      It sounds like they pricing you out of your property with property tax. I just purchased land in Idaho, not far from you... So far Idaho has been a complete 180 degrees as to what I'd expect in California. Our target is June 2021 to move, building a house.
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      • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 8 months ago
        Yes, land owners are being soaked in taxes and we have little to show for it. I was recently visiting Northern Idaho over the Memorial Day weekend. It is beautiful country and has little red tape … no permits for hiking / climbing (that I could see) plus we went into the back woods for camping and shooting our high-power rifles. We had no trouble with the locals. I understand that Boise is a different story -- the leftists are moving in and taking over.
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  • Posted by Rlee 3 years, 8 months ago
    There are no victims only volunteers.
    I never closed my business and no consequences.
    We wear cloth masks and no sickness.
    I've borrowed money at 1% and bought discount equipment. Cash flow is up.
    Maybe it is a conspiracy. If so they found out who the volunteers are.
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    • Posted by ewv 3 years, 8 months ago
      A lot of non-volunteer victims have been victims of government actions of many kinds. That is the nature of government with unlimited powers used for the wrong purpose, not evidence of a secret global conspiracy.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 8 months ago
    I have been slammed by so-called objectivists like EWE for years for pointing out the conspiracy to destroy our Constitutional Republic. Dark to light this is the Great Awakening.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      Every time I heard of this agenda 21, the people speaking about it also spoke about alien abduction and contrails from plains being mind control, let alone the flat earth types. Could have been by design. My eyes are now wide open.
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  • Posted by janblacha 3 years, 8 months ago
    I told people years ago about all of those old age homes posing up all around the USA. Now they are nearly on every corner. They put the old and sick in there to force them to die and take their money. Just like the Jews in Poland.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 8 months ago
    In agenda 21/ now 2030.
    As for antiF**K and BLM, they are just another arm of the democrap/world communism Hydra arm.
    It's obvious that there are No Lives that matter except their own.
    I promise, they won't be building anyone up, instead, they'll lower the fittest to match the weakest.
    Experts!, they speak of experts as if that is where their answers to problems will come. Haven't we seen just how "UN"expert these so called experts are?
    Remember Kakistocracy? (my favorite word has cropped up again lately),: Governed by the worst or least qualified...I say it's both, worst AND least qualified in just about every field of study for the most part.

    Next up?...we've been tipped off: Pig(locy) Flu. With covid, they went after people with A type blood...Pig(locy) flu, being "A Like", will go after the rest of us and our bodies will be fighting off an invading blood type which likely set off an immunal storm.

    We'll just have to wait and see...in the mean time: I'd be taking some Elderberry everyday from now on. It puts a slippery coating on your immune cells so that viruses cannot attach. Larch, would be another good thing: It is an adaptogen that will moderate your bodies immune response. Increase or decrease your immune reaction should the virus make contact.
    That way you won't be prone to an attack upon every cell in your body.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 years, 8 months ago
    If they actually wanted to depopulate the earth, they would not have shut the world down. The shut down did create chaos....maybe "they", whoever the "they" is, realized the virus was not deadly enough and engineered the shutdown to create Chaos.The only groups involved here that I can definitively discern as "They" are the Democrats who want to screw Trump and don't give a darn about the rest of us and the Communist Chinese who found themselves with this virus and decided to gift it to the rest of the world so that they would not be the only ones suffering from it.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 8 months ago
      Oh, I'm not so sure. What better way than to incite civil unrest and tension by preventing people from acting normally and spending their energy in productive endeavors, i.e. jobs?
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    • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
      What I am attempting to impart on you is none of this is by accident, all of it is related and Trump is simply in the way. It was supposed to be Hillary in the chair. It is all related to this Agenda 21 crap, it’s an insurrection from the inside.
      Schools, Local governments, State Governments and the News Media... Its that or everyone just became really stupid.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 8 months ago
    Scary shit #1 - My daughter is aware of the term “Preparation for de-population” to my surprise. She said the school system says its birth control for third world countries. Why and who is speaking to my daughter about this?

    Why has Cuomo imported 6300 Covid patients to nursing homes?
    https://tinyurl.com/y8wh79z5

    How about Newsom importing Covid patients from Mexico?
    https://tinyurl.com/y9hj77bq
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  • Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 8 months ago
    Agenda 21, also known as "smart growth" and "sustainable communities," was one version of an eco-nut wish list that many states and countries have already enacted into law. It has been revised two or three times; the latest version I know about is Agenda 2030.

    The main demands of these agendas are:

    (1) Urban planners should avoid allowing "sprawl" onto unbuilt land, and instead force densification, including by demolishing single family homes and building dense-pack apartments with no front or back yards and little to no parking, so that residents are prevented from having or using vehicles.

    (2) Make those cities as automobile-hostile as possible. Cut road capacity and eliminate parking. Use congestion charges to make driving costly, but don't spend the money on building roads.

    (3) No more building out in the country or in small towns, and then start forcing everyone there who isn't actually involved in farm production to move into large cities and stay there.

    Obviously with the BLM/Antifa terrorism going on, point (3) is a direct threat to the life and prosperity of all of us and must be defied until it can be repealed.

    And yes, these people really do want to depopulate the earth, and urban riots are part of the plan for doing it. They want the wealthy classes destroyed except for their own chosen elite -- people like Soros and Al Gore.

    It's past time to arm for war. It's almost too late to be allowed to.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 8 months ago
    I agree, this scenario could go two different ways. In someway what I wrote re: JBrenners question although over the top (I'm still working on it) parts of it could happen. JP and Dems are out for blood including the questioning the military in the congressional committee. I'm just wondering where the military going to be if Puppet Joe gets elected. it seems to me the Crazy Left would want to dismantle that too.
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