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Could Trump haters push to delay a Covid vaccine??

Posted by oldtk 3 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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A vaccine release before the election could boost the stock market to new highs; bad for the left?
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
    A premature CoViD vaccine release will be problematic, particularly for us with a tiny understanding of the proper approval protocol and problems.

    I will not CoViD vaccinate until there is a good risk / benefit history. Even CoViD immunity is arguable and problematic.

    Influenza G4 EA H1N1 is already on WHO pandemic staging. The Type A Influenzas are mutating to Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza HPAI types; worrisome on their own.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 9 months ago
    Yes. And those in high places also push to keep businesses and schools closed as long as they think they can get away with it before the November.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 9 months ago
    And...I stand by my prediction. They will rush this vaccine out without sufficient history on it, and probably ignoring the data in the expedited trials (some of it is bad, by the way) and force it on school kids. I may be wrong. I'd love to be wrong. But...we'll see...
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 9 months ago
    Interesting point...I wonder if they have re-introduced the virus causing a surge.
    We'll have to see what they do...if it does nothing but put a tracking chip in you, then they won't.
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    • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
      Ab initio deaths presumed to be caused by the virus were reported. Now the surge is of cases due to more prevalent testing, not more prevalent virus.

      Does anyone here epistemologically trespass on epidemiology? To differentiate specificity from sensitivity and antigen testing from antibody testing? Of course not!
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 9 months ago
        From what I understand is that the test cannot tell the difference between a live virus from a dead virus...after all this time, sunshine, humidity, high temperatures; not to mention short life span, even on hard surfaces since, October???...the virus is DEAD and likely pieces parts blowing around...unless of course...it's being re-introduced is my take.

        Just my thoughts on the subject.
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        • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
          Which “the test?”

          Antigen tests detects particular components of virus(es). Do you understand that a virus does not meet the strict definition of ‘live’? A virus in isolation cannot reproduce; a requirement for life.

          Why do you believe / imagine that virologists have advanced academic qualifications?
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 9 months ago
            Yes, I read that viruses do not meet the definition of Live....and Laughing, no, I don't think many of the sciences today have advanced academic qualifications.
            In my day, we did revere science, now we find we did so blindly.
            These days, I'd trust the passionate, integrated amateur more.
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            • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
              I said virologist, you retorted “the sciences.”. Why bother.
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 9 months ago
                I got it and I thank you for your input, a bit over my head no less, but did mean all sciences including virologist.
                We grew up being taught science facts but learned later in life, most is just theory...replaced by more theory...especially lately. Which for Science is a good thing.
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                • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
                  Scientist is an epithet. What is ‘science’, not what is the scientific method.

                  My worn copy of The Logic of Scientific Discovery (tr. 1959 Logic der Forschung, Springer 1935) (Routledge 2002) is 500+ pages. In a word -

                  Science is falsification. What is not falsifiable is nonsense. Falsification is the demarcation boundary.

                  The Science Wars are over. Unfortunately it appears that higher social criticism won - as illustrated above.
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      • Posted by oldtk 3 years, 9 months ago
        Que? I have a masters in molecular biology and I don't know what you just said.
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        • Posted by Doug_Huffman 3 years, 9 months ago
          Unverifiable claims of professional credentials on the internet are anile and moot. The best one can do is elevate the dialogue.

          Virus live and virus dead does not for me cut it. THE MOTOR assembled and complete was ‘live’, while reduced to incomplete and components was ‘dead’.

          As I said elsewhere on the Gulch, I have first hand experience maintaining effective neutron multiplication fraction.
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