Sorry I have no opponent .
I stated “surgeons wear a mask to protect the patient from any germs they might project”
You sir ...disagreed.
You said “A surgeons MASK is to protect the patient from drool and snot”.

???? Are you disagreeing because I said “germs they may project” and you said “drool and snot”

Ad hockery is shoring up your defective argument after your opponent illuminates its weaknesses. Maximum entropy in a naive subjective prior is beyond most.

Yes, a failure to communicate.

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week. Which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men.. Learn the religious memes and Christ images of the movie. It is deeper than you can think.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.
Why do I need to learn what ad hockery is?
Please explain how that pertains to my statement.

Thank you for your kind reply.

I didn't take it as harsh, but that you were defending your liberty.
That reminds me of Barry Goldwater's eloquent statement:
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

My reasoning is that there are some studies indicating masks may reduced the spread to others. There are also indications that older people are more likely to have serious complications and to die if they get the virus. I do care about keeping older people alive and as healthy as possible. They are the ones who remember what individual liberty is and just how little freedom the state wants us to have. They are the ones who had a real work ethic. They have the wisdom that comes from experience and that is very valuable to themselves and everyone they know. I think wearing masks is a good way to protect those who are more likely to die from the virus.

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Freedom, I was unnecessarily harsh yesterday. While there are no excuses, I think I was reacting to the new mask ordinance our mayor signed into effect yesterday, about the time I was writing that. Apologies.

Starting next week nationwide.

In other news, my city just passed an ordinance to require masks everywhere in public. Interesting that the ordinance they passed was changed from the one they presented to the public as what they were going to do (removed a bunch of exceptions), but at least they also removed the teeth from it. The only way a person can get in trouble is if they refuse to wear a mask and the business owner (not a clerk, not an "ambassador" but the actual business owner/manager) requests that they vacate the property and they don't. THEN they can be charged with trespassing. The police won't respond, otherwise.

And since there is no business owner/manager/responsible person available to object out in the open air, although there is no exception to the mask order for outdoor wear, no one is going to call the police on that! CORRECTION: there is an exception for outdoor exercising as long as the person is alone or with household members. Otherwise, if others are present, a mask must be worn. Except, there's no official complainant. Also, Tulsa Police Department says they are asking for clarification on how they are supposed to respond.

In further other news that you probably already know, my Governor, Kevin Stitt, has tested positive (as well as one of our city council members) for the virus. The Governor steadfastly refuses to require the entire state to mask up, saying that each city has a right to make that decision. Although that doesn't affect the orders in places like Walmart and Target, etc.....it leaves us with choices. Since I live very close to a suburb that has no intention of setting a mask order, I do have options. Now if Governor Stitt would follow the lead of Georgia's governor, I'd be really happy (but that still wouldn't change the right of a business owner to decide about that, which IS the definition of freedom).

Edited for correction of details.

Just for info, I don't wear a cloth mask or a N95 but somewhere in between. The mask is not the answer but it is a item along with social distancing to diminish the effects of the virus. I have a feeling that until a medical answer comes out, we are doomed to both methods of reducing the effects but it is not elimination of the virus. As for my comment about being for my protection, well, all our associates have worn masks and practiced social distancing and none at my store have come down with it. Whether that is dumb luck or not I don't know but now I guess we will be wearing them until the cows come home.

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"Pay no attention to the protesters throwing molotov cocktails, smashing glass displays, and/or walking away with new 50" flat screen tvs." said the Wizard of Fake News.

Yes, that should be true in a free market, in a free country.

Indeed, quite a probable risk.

Hmmmmm my first sentence as I wrote it. “Surgeon wear a mask to protect the patient from any germs they may project” they meaning the surgeons.

The next sentence in quotation marks was what jimslag wrote. My point was that the mask protects others from coughs and sneezes from the mask wearer.

I disagree.

A surgeon’s MASK is to protect the patient from drools and snot.

The leftist propaganda msm always wants to have it both ways. All police are bad because of one bad cop. But the protests were mostly peaceful.

Surgeons wear a mask to protect the patient from any germs they might express in a sneeze or cough.

1.“The mask is for my protection from those that have decided that they do not want to wear one.”

A photograph of a box of disposable masks shows a warning label that says the masks "will not provide any protections against COVID-19."

Such disclaimers don’t mean that the masks are ineffective at slowing the spread of the disease, but that they don’t protect the wearer as well as medical respirators such as the N95 recommended for use by health care professionals. Disposable and homemade cloth masks are recommended for people to wear because {{{it protects others}}} around them in case they have the virus and may not be showing any symptoms.

If a private business has the right to require customers to wear a mask to do business with them, does a private business not also have the right to refuse to bake your cake? (do business with you)

I agree freedom but I sense "blackmail" in the form of "reducing the chance of lawsuits". And this is, I think, precisely what is at work driving much of what we are seeing. Fear is a powerful motivator and the left certainly has no lack attorneys willing to take advantage of it.

Yes, our Walmart in FL has been 100% masks required. No entry without them for MONTHS.

This is apparently now Nationwide!

At the prison you could get set up by other officers too. During a shift briefing a lieutenant once said "corrections is a cutthroat business."
When I worked there we lost an officer every two-to-three years due to committing a crime or getting caught having sex (both male and female officers) with male inmates. The latter were just fired on the spot.
The crime that usually got an officer picked up at the prison by deputies and due process taken to the county jail was smuggling in dope.
There was an ICS (Inmate Control Systems) Officer who got caught extorting money from inmate families so sonny boy could have one of the more choice prison jobs. Heard he is now serving life without parole for committing another crime while awaiting trail out on bail.
BTW, before this dude got caught extorting inmate families, he heard me dino was getting a divorce and even told a deputy warden that due to that I was about to go off with inmates in a cell block. That was to divert attention from himself. Saw that happen more than once.
Now recalling an officer who called another coworker a crook (right in front of me) only to be the one caught bringing in weed the very next day.
With even more officers quitting so the rest of us often worked mandatory overtime, working at that place was so much fun!
The life expectancy of a corrections officer is 59. So far I've made it to 73. Being a little crazy helps.

It is not capitalism. It is corporationism. The bad version on capitalism and socialism combined. For workers the modern day version of a gulag. Now it looks like even the customers are subject to the tyranny.

Alright, so I see comments both for and against. Let me say this, it is a supposedly free country, if you don't like the policy, don't shop there. My outlook is the fact that I work there due to circumstances related to COVID-19. I started there when laid off my main job in March and have had to wear a mask since day 1. The mask is for my protection from those that have decided that they do not want to wear one. Well, since many areas such as cities and counties, even states are now requiring masks for being out in public, Walmart decided to go one step further and require customers to wear them. We provide masks at the door for those that do not have one but I see customers coming in the door that have their own. A few Walmart stores had to close down because of the virus but they were few and far between, most have had no problem and my Walmart has had no cases from it, thankfully. I would like it to stay that way please. Is this going to be the new normal? I sure in the hell hope not. I guess I need to remind people that Walmart is a business and it owns most of it's stores either entirely or through one of it's subsidies and it is private property, so they can set what rules they want. As I stated above if you don't like it, don't shop there but many other stores that are doing the same thing.