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Now here is a part of History I never learned about.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago to History
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The Columbus Calumny

""The inconvenient truth is that Italians and Sicilians were once victims of white supremacy in this country: Until the 20th century, Italians and Sicilians were legally classified as “colored” under U.S. immigration law (as were Armenians and many other ethnic groups), were subject to quotas, and were not allowed to become naturalized citizens. This gave rise to “race courts” in which immigrants presented anthropological, cultural and historical evidence that their ethnic group was white, even though they were not Anglo-Saxon. Individual judges weighed this evidence and determined whether the plaintiff was white, and therefore could become a naturalized citizen. Different judges came to different conclusions, keeping the immigration status of many ethnic groups in limbo for decades. Very few people know about the race courts; it’s not taught in school.""

PS...THIS DOESN'T MAKE AMERICA RACIST!
SOURCE URL: https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/the-columbus-calumny/


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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 10 months ago
    ""During World War II, FDR rounded up Americans of German, Italian, and Japanese descent and interned them in relocation camps for the duration of the conflict. This is during the living memory of Italian elders who live in Morris Park and throughout the United States. Very few people know that the Japanese were not the only ethnic group put into American relocation camps; it’s not taught in school.""
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 10 months ago
    One of the interesting points made in the Oxford History of the United States books is that immigration rules certainly allowed for a variety from other nations to come, but preference was definitely for Protestant Anglo-Saxons, i.e. French and British immigrants. Everyone else - Germans, Irish, Chinese, etc. - was looked down on which is why in many cases those nationalities formed enclaves in major cities, giving rise to Germantown, Chinatown, etc. This really didn't begin to start breaking down until after the Civil War and most especially after WW I.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 10 months ago
    Being a quarter Irish and magically100% Irish on March 17 each time my birthday comes around on St. Patrick's Day, it was well after graduating from college that I learned some businesses used to hang signs that said, "No Coloreds Or Irish Allowed." Now I find myself supposing that Italians were considered "colored" and the Irish "white but not white enough."
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 10 months ago
      We used to hear stories about, first the italians in boston were shun then the irish were shun then they hated each other. The Italians because they were mobsters and the Irish cause they were always fighting with each other over something.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 10 months ago
        The Irish could get jobs as cops, because the job was so dangerous at the time. They were used as cannon fodder by both sides during the Civil War, usually put into the front lines, and experiencing the worst casualties. The four brothers in my southern family all were confederates, with two dying in prisoner of war camps (which were horrible on both sides), and one unable to find employment after the war because he'd ridden with Jeb Stuart, who's men were specially hated. He eventually found a job as a seaman, but that's another story.
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        • Posted by $ 3 years, 10 months ago
          Interesting, Doc.
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 10 months ago
            The best portrayal of the Irish as cannon fodder was this scene from Gods and Generals, where the Confederate Irish brigade participated in the bloody battle of Fredericksburg. They found themselves facing the Union Irish brigade. After third futile rush against the stone wall they were defending, the southern Irish were calling out to their Union brethren, "In God's name, laddies, please stop!" (not portrayed in the movie) as they were horrified at slaughtering their own countrymen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8geVz...
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 10 months ago
    The Polish immigrants prior to WW1 had to have family already here in the US to vouch for them to the immigration service. My grandfather and his uncle who was just a few years older obtained forged papers in Gdansk to avoid being rounded up and pressed into service of the Prussian military. They had no family here and jumped ship when it docked in NY. The exclusivity given to certain european immigrants shows the prejudice of immigration officers even at that time.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 10 months ago
    I guess we owe them all our wealth too.
    Too bad they have to wait until all the golden eggs are stolen by others and the goose is dead.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 10 months ago
      They're not just relying on Sorhed's money, they've got a huge web of dark-money organizations. Glenn Beck went into that in detail on his show Wed 6/24 on BlazeTV.com (paywalled).

      If you're interested in hearing these things it's well worth it to subscribe.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 10 months ago
        I meant the restitution crowd is seeking to take "our" money, and these guys will have to wait in line. Of course it will all be gone by then.
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        • Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 10 months ago
          The notion that we owe anybody restitution is so crazy I'm not even going to humor those who assert it. Just like the so-called ethics of intersectionality, when a belief is that obviously false, those who use it as an excuse for bad behavior are not even entitled to the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're doing -- they do, and are lying.

          If anyone really believes he is worse off today because his forebears were brought to America as slaves, I'd offer him a one-way trip to any country in Africa that will take him.
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 10 months ago
    I wonder if the recent SC decision on stopping discrimination in employment applies to step-mothers of police officers.
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 10 months ago
      I hate to tell them...employment is a discriminating process according to the skills and personality needed.

      But, to your point...I bet not...that kind of discrimination is acceptable.
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  • Posted by lkparkerjr 3 years, 10 months ago
    All animals including Humans are tribal in nature. Watch a bird feeder. The cardinals fight off the cardinals first often leaving alone the sparrows of feed.

    The fact is all of us have the instinctual predisposition to be racist. Racism exists in all people across the world. It is not just white on black. In Africa, it is tribal or simply how dark one is.

    We all must identify our racist tendencies (no matter of skin color, tribe, religion). We must teach our children to look for commonality with those around them (the humanity). We must personally combat this instinctual urge to create, segregate, and identify by tribe. Worse than addiction, this can only be accomplished one day at a time.
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 10 months ago
      The whole idea of "race" is false...unless we are talking about genetic parasitical humanoidism...Laughing.

      We judge by behavior, mannerisms, culture...not something so insignificant as the color of one's skin....unless one is a hard core materialist, psychopathic narcissist with no conscience or mutuality ...like many demo's.
      If there was such a thing as a different race within the human species...it would be THEM!
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