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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 3 years, 10 months ago
    The benefits of hydroxychloroquine helped me to piece together information about how COVID-19 functions. What is listed below is part of an incomplete background that I will eventually put on the web site of my new company (Chem-Free Solutions) that is partly described at the following site and its oldest comment (a sales pitch):
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    The French health minister reported that an infectious disease doctor from southwest France had "cited four cases of young patients with COVID-19 and no underlying health problems who went on to develop serious symptoms after using non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) in the early stage of their symptoms."
    (https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m.... Actemra is designed to prevent cytokine storms by blocking interleukin 6 (IL-6). At about the same time, anecdotal reports of reduction in symptoms by hydroxychloroquine surfaced as well. Hydroxychloroquine has been used to treat lupus, a rheumatoid inflammatory arthritis autoimmune disease, for over half a century. Hydroxychloroquine decreases T helper 17 (Th 17) cytokines IL-6, IL-17, and IL-22 (Cruz da Silva et al., 2013) and has protective effects against accelerated atherosclerosis in lupus patients (Floris et al., 2018). The IL-6 pathway (JAK-STAT) increases corticosteroid production in adrenal glands to help stop the immune response and is Involved in C-reactive protein reactions and clotting

    COVID-19 targets the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) to enter epithelial cells (Al Ghatrif et al., 2020), but also plays an anti-inflammatory role in renin-angiotensin signaling (RAS).

    Earlier I stated that the antigen is digested by the ubiquitin proteasome system where MHC-1 is presented to the cytotoxic T cells. Causing a failure in the ubiquitin proteasome system is a possible path for long term pathogenic attack, as compromise in this system leads to an overabundance of undigested proteins that have led to Alzheimer's disease (Kotilinek et al.). Kotilinek et al.'s results "predict that the predominant efficacy of NSAIDs" on Alzheimer's disease "will be found in individuals with normal levels of COX-2, prior to increases in COX-2 due to inflammation or glutamate". The ubiquitin proteasome system has also been the target of anti-cancer drugs (Soave et al.) and autoimmune diseases like lupus as well (Bulatov et al.).

    If MHC-1 binds too well to a foreign protein (e.g. gluten in Celiac's disease), then one gets an overexpressed T cell response and is said to be intolerant to that foreign protein. Other than those living in assisted living facilities, most people who are dying or are hospitalized from COVID-19 are exhibiting symptoms of Type 3 hypersensitivity. Type 3 hypersensitivity is common in people with persistent gut and/or kidney inflammation.

    My family has a very involved history of odd immune responses. Piecing together this puzzle has helped me figure out how improper process control of eosinophils, the least understood of the immune cells (and if you are healthy, the type of cell in lowest concentration) has led to a myriad of conditions (cold-induced asthma, eczema, eosinophilic esophagitis, food allergies and intolerances, allergies induced by anaethesia, and even Alzheimer's disease). I think that I am on the cusp of understanding how all of this is related to failures in the ubiquitin proteasome system.

    Causing a failure in the ubiquitin proteasome system is a possible path for long term pathogenic attack, as compromise in this system leads to an overabundance of undigested proteins that have led to Alzheimer's disease (Kotilinek et al.). Kotilinek et al.'s results "predict that the predominant efficacy of NSAIDs" on Alzheimer's disease "will be found in individuals with normal levels of COX-2, prior to increases in COX-2 due to inflammation or glutamate". The ubiquitin proteasome system has also been the target of anti-cancer drugs (Soave et al.) and autoimmune diseases like lupus as well (Bulatov et al.). What helped me connect all of this was how hydroxychloroquine has long been used as a treatment for lupus, a form of rheumatoid arthritis. From Ge et al, in https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113..., "pretreatment of eosinophils with MG132, a proteasome inhibitor that inhibits degradation of ubiquitin-tagged proteins", regulates Galectin-1, which appears to regulate eosinophil function, airway inflammation, and asthma.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 10 months ago
      As someone who has benefited greatly from going Carnivore (reducing my immune/inflammation response), and knowing of many others...

      I will be interested in learning what you find. Many of the processed foods have "addicting" agents added to it. I respond NEGATIVELY to these, such as MSG... (I used to have asthma, and would wheeze when just walking, until I cleaned up my diet)!
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 3 years, 10 months ago
        For a couple of years I was addicted to nasal sprays. What I didn't know (and I indirectly mentioned in the comment above) is that the corticosteroid in the nasal spray was solving my immediate breathing problem but lowering my body's ability in the long term to counteract disease.
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 10 months ago
          Yes, anti-inflammation diets are the answer.
          A few things I have learned, that may help.
          1) If it makes your nose run when you eat it, it's probably an allergen
          2) If it causes congestion (milk, for me), it definitely is
          3) 99% of skin conditions (eczema, psoriasis, etc) are dietary inflammation expressed

          I have reversed my Pre-Diabetes, Obesity, and most of my inflammation. I originally reversed my hypertension, but it came back. I am debugging it now (it appears coffee and chocolate, but NOT caffeine directly. WOW). Those are black coffee. And 92% dark chocolate. But apparently, not good for me. After 4 days of being great with my BP, just chocolate was enough. Amazing. (I am 1 week without coffee, that will be a separate confirmation test, but I am pretty confident of the result since it was the single most consistent variable, as I don't have chocolate that often).

          Every body is different. For different people, it is different foods. Mostly the processed stuff!
          Closer to nature is always better!
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 3 years, 10 months ago
            What the body sees as "foreign" gets phagocytosed. When the phagocytes excrete, they excrete acid, which in turn causes inflammation. Yes, an anti-inflammation diet is part of the answer.
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 3 years, 10 months ago
    ...and if you act now, we’ll include global pandemic! FREE! For only $6 trillion! Side effects include your brain turning to mush and pathological urges to riot with fascists.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 3 years, 10 months ago
      I've made the mistake of developing products that absolve leftists of their environmental guilt before. It worked for a while, and then Obama declared that he would subsidize my solar energy rivals. Our entire company shrugged in 2008, and this is the first time I have been entrepreneurial since. My professorship has been a wonderful "shrug job".
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 10 months ago
    There is also
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...
    claim that HCQ promotes cardiovascular disease - wrong.

    The story was broken by France Soir, The Guardian ran it well down inside but claims the credit.
    Journals- NEJM and Lancet.
    Both of the supposedly scientific papers were peer reviewed, reported on data manipulations not actual studies, the data is un-trackable. The company behind the papers is peculiar, who actually put the numbers together and who paid? not yet known.

    The Lancet, once a prestigious journal of medicine has under its current board and (especially) editor, a record of blatant political interference. eg. -- editorial, 16 May
    “Americans must put a president in the White House come January 2021 who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.” [My comment- gasp!]

    Good reports on-
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/06/0... and
    http://joannenova.com.au/2020/06/huge...

    Good background on-
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/06/0...
    if you want to be up well informed, warning, comments are of a high standard and could take an hour just to read.
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    • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 10 months ago
      I have just come across this site-
      https://www.medicineuncensored.com/ run by James Todaro, MD.
      The site is well worth a look at to check on the latest hydroxychloroquine stories and, hopefully, proper scientific papers.
      This deals with the Lancet paper-
      https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-...

      There is a company behind it, 'out of thin air', 2 months old, of the people in the company, looks like only five, only one is a medic. the others have varied backgrounds. The company name is Surgisphere.
      Surgisphere’s only other peer-reviewed publication is 'Cardiovascular, Drug Therapy, and Mortality in Covid-19' that was published on May 1, 2020 in The New England Journal of Medicine. See my post above for the web address.

      Reminder- this paper was peer reviewed.
      Peer review is nowadays seen as mates reviewed,
      but Todaro cannot even find any mates of the author.

      [macrolide = antibiotic]

      A cautious person could think that these two odd papers, both now retracted, were put out with the intention to falsely claim that HCQ does not work, and is dangerous. Whoever put them out has concealed their tracks, data sources, and funding. They had a realistic view of the integrity of peer review at least on topics where political bias can override scientific evidence.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 10 months ago
        Thank you for all your work to keep us informed. One could get "lost" for days clicking and reading on the headlines of Medicine (Un)Censored.

        Forgive my temporary ignorance on the matter, but one of the highlights of your links was learning of "The Wayback Machine", which was new to me - the Internet never forgets, LOL.
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        • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 10 months ago
          Yes, this storage of web pages has been very embarrassing to the careless, and to the crooks, alike who would like to be able to erase the past.
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          • Posted by Jkj7 3 years, 10 months ago
            Unlike we are doing with history. The more we can remove, tear down, eradicate, obliviate(to ref Harry Potter) the more we can carry on. If the censors had their way, the internet would fall prey to this condition also.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 10 months ago
      "who actually put the numbers together and who paid?"
      It looks familiar.
      Similar to some paperwork about Russian connections to a campaign for President. Recently exposed as completed contrived and illegal.
      Just my opinion, but the same pattern is being repeated. Perhaps by the same or allied interests.

      Thanks for the links and the research, Lucky. 👍
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      • Posted by Jkj7 3 years, 10 months ago
        And just as they did with the Russian collusion, the damage is done before the underlying issues with the material are uncovered. The damage is done and no one is listening to the retraction...which I am sure is coming. :wink wink
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 10 months ago
    Read it, saw that it was a botched job...they can't even cheat right.
    GB did a rant on it too and now the Who? has thought twice...if that's even possible for those creatures.
    100 Scientist spoke up and called em out.
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 10 months ago
    Yeah, but botched, as in error or incompetence?

    To put so much effort into it, and get results so wrong, and so nicely politically correct, means prior intent.
    Not a conspiracy, the author needed no inside knowledge of the postmodernist criteria for acceptance of papers, even at (once) eminent journals such as The Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 3 years, 10 months ago
    When scientists have an agenda we should always be wary of the conclusions they make, whether they are scientific, political, or a combination with a preconceived result. In other words start with the result to be presented to the public then design the research to substantiate that end. This was obvious with the climate debate when they kept changing the expectations of a disaster to fit the current trend in the weather: cold, hot, dessert, rainforest, etc. None of which have actually occurred in the way predicted. This one was political and transparent. The President touted a particular drug, that needed to be discredited even though it has been used for about sixty years. Suddenly it was FATAL!? The name of a product with a partial resemblance was used to possibly cover up a murder! The powers that be in the bureaucracy (liberals) of the FDA were quick to claim they had not approved it for such use and that other reports were suspect(ed of being right) in their methods.
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