Project Veritas catches Facebook red-handed

Posted by $ blarman 3 months ago to Culture
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This is why President Trump needs to issue an edict to these social media companies to either declare themselves platforms or content producers. Make sure that people know which one they choose.

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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 2 months, 4 weeks ago
    What Facebook needs - like YouTube and other online opposition-muzzlers - is something very simple: Competition.

    I haven't had the time to go scouring the net for viable alternatives, but a recent Forbes article jumped out at me:

    ...and prompted me to go to and sign up. MeWe had me with its "Privacy Bill of Rights" alone.

    The site is still comparatively empty - owing to its relative newness - but expect that to change. And there are some klunky elements: So far it's impossible to contact group admins without first making them "Contacts" (MeWe's version of "Friends,") which is something I don't care to do with anyone I haven't met face-to-face; and navigation is a little cumbersome.

    The upsides are many: MeWe has a super-duper high-tech innovation that nobody but nobody had ever, ever heard about before, not even Facebook after some sixteen years and four months of existence: (Drum roll please....) Italics, bold and strikethrough text-formatting for posts! Groundbreaking!

    I haven't found an equivalent at MeWe of Facebook's endlessly-updating "Home" feed - which in context of saving time is a good thing. OTOH, it's maybe the one thing that keeps Facebook users stuck to the site for hours on end: Basic curiosity. But... a massive time-waster too.

    Some of the things that were free at Facebook carry a small fee at MeWe, like starting a group page ($1.99/mo, which puts the annual fee at something like: two beers at the airport.) There's also a "Premium" opt-in tier which gives you voice and video contact, a chunk of storage space, and a bunch of expanded emogi, sticker and theme options.

    At any rate, assuming there are others as disgusted at Facebook's little ideological fiefdom as me, they'll be looking for fresh alternatives too. I'm hoping MeWe rises to the top of that particular heap, because Weinstein seems at least to lean in the direction of individualism and respect for users. The biggest downside is of course the simple lack of content - something which will require patience.

    Facebook has become a classic case of a monolithic leviathan so convinced of its invincibility that it doesn't notice the cracks in its foundation. (A little like Asimov's Galactic Empire in "Foundation.") Which means it's ripe for supplanting by a better competitor.

    YMMV, but I recommend giving MeWe a whirl. It'd sure be nice to see a hefty influx of O-people there (there's already at least one Objectivism group.)
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 months, 4 weeks ago
    Everyone who HASN'T donated to Project Veritas should... I've actually had lunch with James and a couple of his crew through the Tea Party...

    This guy is the real deal. I love how he calls American Media the "American Pravda", which is the Russian Word for Truth! LOL. That's what Russia called their "news"...

    We have gone full on Russian.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 months, 3 weeks ago
    Hooray for Veritas! My concern that if Biden get elected would such groups be target of Dem backlash. I was running a scenario in my mind that the Communist Democrat Party could go after all Trump supporters after such an election. Since they no longer see the Constitution as a viable document this could be the end of our country. Some of the Fox News talking heads are very critical of Trump and his ability of getting elected. The political ads are so numerous and very biased. Even when my wife and I are watching any of the Discovery family of channels the political ads are just too numerous also. My wife wistfully mentions moving the the ex-patriot community in Portugal, "Going Galt".
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  • Posted by Orwellian 2 months, 4 weeks ago
    They have turned into a content creator with this action they are open to a law suite. It's legislation time!!
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 4 weeks ago
      Legislation already exists, it just needs to be enforced. All that has to happen is for the Executive to ask these companies to declare themselves as either content producers (with the ability to edit/curate content) or platform providers (tax breaks) for tax purposes. But the law specifically says that platform providers may NOT edit/curate content AND remain eligible for tax breaks and immune from libel/slander suits. The current social media platforms are trying to play it both ways.
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  • Posted by jdg 2 months, 4 weeks ago
    I am not convinced that repealing Section 230 would help the situation. It would merely cause media to close their comment sections.

    Better to change the wording so that the requirement for "good faith" in moderating has the effect of requiring media owners to keep their word when they advertise, or contractually promise, neutrality and/or a written "acceptable use policy."

    As for Project Veritas, they are only somewhat useful since they seem to be about "catching in the act" people who aren't breaking the law and aren't likely to suffer consequences. More useful, in my estimation, would be to look at how the data that Facebook and Google collect get sold and used, and spread that knowledge around so that consumers start abandoning those companies.

    I also recommend, which emphasises alternatives and workarounds that let you evade controls yourself.
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