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'You're Not The End All': Rand Paul Slams Fauci In Heated Exchange Over Lockdowns

Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 1 month ago to News
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"The history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction... As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision," said Paul - who added that we need to "observe with an open eye what happened in Sweden, where the kids kept going to school."

"The mortality per capita in Sweden is actually less than France, less than Italy, less than Spain, less than Belgium, less than the Netherlands, about the same as Switzerland. But basically I don't think there's anybody arguing that what happened in Sweden is an unacceptable result. I think people are intrigued by it, and we should be."

"I don't think any of us are certain when we do all these modelings - there have been more people wrong with modeling than right. We're opening up a lot of economies around the US, and I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying 'oh, we can't do this, there's going to be a surge' - will admit when there isn't a surge."
Rand Paul

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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino suspects the real purpose is to keep Trump from resurrecting the wonderful economy he created before he is up for reelection. (The motivation for China starting the pandemic, perhaps?)
    Senile Quid Pro Quo Joe needs all the help he can get so his handlers behind the curtain can herd sheeple onward to the making of a socialist utopia only for the more than equal Animal Farm pigs.
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    Posted by TheRealBill 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    and assumptions that go into them.

    My first real exposure to modeling like this was in high school in an environmental science class. They brought in this large device which was basically a fancy scoreboard controlled by switches and knobs. You could "input" various assumptions and it would model the outcome on the environment. While we were playing w/it in between sessions I discovered the back side had additional settings that entirely changed the outcome and basically controlled it. By that I mean that, once changed, the "predictions" made by the front side and its human operator didn't pan out anymore. She was quite embarrassed when that started happening - she didn't know about the built in assumptions on the back. My physics teacher knew what I did, however, and after class privately commended me. Muahahaha. Yeah I've always been like this.
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe he used the IHME model which has been shown to be utter garbage AND based on baseless assumptions.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    World may end from unknown but powerful reasons- we should be prepared and shelter in place.

    Anthony Fouci (paraphrased)
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I bet he is a democrat and wants the economy to crash to keep Trump from getting re-elected. I cant imagine what Biden or Obama would have done. Maybe sat on their hands and did nothing- maybe it would be over by now with the economy untouched.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think each person should evaluate what they do and where they go- based on their assessment of the risk of getting kung flu. Its not the business to tell me if I can work if I want to, or whether I can invite willing customers to come to my business.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That is me, too. He is too self centered, as is that scarf-laden woman that appears with him.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago
    Fauci is just trying to boost his own reputation and scare everyone into doing whatever he says. Pure power trip, unfortunately.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago
    I have lost a lot of respect for the fouci crew in recent weeks, as their models have been wrong over and over. The whole idea of their being millions of deaths if we did no draconian shutdowns but just allowed each person to deal with his/her own risks if I think way overblown.The "millions" model was even far greater than what actually happened with the spanish flu in 1918.

    The genetic stability of this corona virus appears to be a lot better than with the spanish flu, where in it was the 2nd mutated wave that killed most of the people. Corona doesnt appear to be mutating.
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  • Posted by $ kddr22 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    covid 19 is one of many viral infections that can produce post infectious inflammatory response. It is definitely not unique. Similar in process with different clinical symptoms to enteroviral d68 producing the flaccid paralysis. I usually will see a case of Kawasaki's 1x a year on average, The key here will be looking at the underlying associated risk factors eg vit d etc.
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  • Posted by Tavolino 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I learned more science from Mr. Wizard when I was 10 years old, than I have from Fauci in last two months.
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    Posted by mccannon01 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I've observed similar, blarman. That is Fauci is not really a practicing medical doctor. He has been a bureaucrat for over several decades, not a practicing medical professional. Even his cited models don't work and he pretends to have knowledge of them - and doesn't because he isn't a computer scientist, either.
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  • Posted by Abaco 5 years, 1 month ago
    Please note something. We keep hearing about this "Kawasaki syndrome". This is based on the kawasaki disease, which was forever linked with mercury poisoning. I first studied this over a decade ago while studying about....autism. The similarities between the disease and autism are impossible to ignore.

    Our kids are not like my generation when we were kids. These kids have been subjected to a much different, extensive soup of known neurotoxins, one of which causes a collection of problems from porphyrin/"mitochondrial disorder" to gut problems. MERCURY! We've been seeing these kawasaki-like gut problems in children in America for 20 f&^ing years! I am going to venture out on a limb here and say to everybody, including Fauci, that this syndrome and COVID19 are independent of each other. I'm somewhat incensed by the arrogance, really. Next, he might tell us that the autism and COVID are linked. Might as well... This guy is shooting from the hip. He's not a dummy. But, I am concerned about his influence - as Rand Paul is.
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  • Posted by samreginab 5 years, 1 month ago
    There is no doubt Fauci is a minion of Bill Gates, WHO, China and the deep state. I mean no doubt whatsoever, documented, certified...He seems to have a kindly, knowledgeable manner in front of the camera these days, but videos of him in his youth are those of a bureaucratic tyrant. Or an elbow rubber with the stars of the political world. So there is no need to speculate whether he is a black hat or a white hat.
    The real question is in the game of 5D chess, what the hell is he doing tanking the world economy while Trump stands next to him on stage?
    Sam B, MD, 35 years in academic and private practice
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No, it’s not just you. This guy is down right creepy. Where does he get his virus models....from the DNC?
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