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Star Trek Prime Directive Meets Ayn Rand

Posted by dbhalling 10 years, 8 months ago to Philosophy
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First of all let me say that I cannot believe I am doing an analysis of the Star Trek prime directive. The prime directive states:
“As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Star Fleet personnel may interfere with the healthy development of alien life and culture. Such interference includes the introduction of superior knowledge, strength, or technology to a world whose society is incapable of handling such advantages wisely. Star Fleet personnel may not violate this Prime Directive, even to save their lives and/or their ship unless they are acting to right an earlier violation or an accidental contamination of said culture. This directive takes precedence over any and all other considerations, and carries with it the highest moral obligation.”

The associated prohibitions are given below (according to Jbrenner)

1. Providing knowledge of technologies or science
2. Taking actions to generally affect a society's overall development
3. Taking actions which support one faction within a society over another
4. Helping a society escape the negative consequences of its own actions
5. Helping a society escape a natural disaster known to the society, even if inaction would result in a society's extinction.
6. Subverting or avoiding the application of a society's laws
7. Interfering in the internal affairs of a society


What would Ayn Rand say about the prime directive. I bet her first question would be what is a sentient species? According to dictionary “sentient” means “able to perceive or feel things.” Well cows, cats, dogs, and many other species can perceive or feel things, in fact much simpler organisms would fit this definition. Based on this definition Rand would state that only rational beings have rights. Rand defined the hierarchy of knowledge integration as sensation, precepts, and conceptual. She explains it perceptual in this example.

“An animal is guided, not merely by immediate sensations, but by percepts. Its actions are not single, discrete responses to single, separate stimuli, but are directed by an integrated awareness of the perceptual reality confronting it. It is able to grasp the perceptual concretes immediately present and it is able to form automatic perceptual associations, but it can go no further.”

My guess is that Rand would then ask what is “normal cultural evolution.” Is it normal cultural evolution to allow Rachel Carson to convince countries to ban DDT and cause 100 million deaths? Is it normal cultural evolution to allow Mao to institute the cultural revolution that will starve over 30 million people to death? There is no such thing a normal cultural evolution. But it rings of Marxist ideas of a scientific progression of society.
Then Rand would ask why normal cultural evolution is considered sacred. According to the dictionary sacred means “connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.” Rand would reject anything based on an appeal to a deity. The proof of the first sentence of the prime directive rests on an appeal to faith, not reason.
It is clear the Prime Directive is based on faith, not reason and is immoral from the first sentence. I will not take on the rest of the directive but I will look at the prohibitions. The first prohibition is “Providing knowledge of technologies or science.” Given that directive was directed to species that are “able to perceive or feel things” this is almost meaningless. Most species that able to perceive are not able to understand or take advantage of knowledge.
But what about rational beings? Why would you not provide knowledge of technologies or science? Does this mean we cannot teach our kids science and technology? That would clearly be immoral. Your objection might be that they are within our culture, but what about African cultures? Should we have not introduced DDT, or steam engines, or the Internet? While we have no obligation to introduce these sciences and technologies, to purposely prohibit them would be immoral.
All the prohibitions and the prime directives are based group think (and written by Hollywood TV writers!). The word society is mentioned nine times in the Prime Directive and in the prohibitions. Individual is not mentioned once. Societies are based on a collection of people and only have rights based on the rights of the individuals, who make up the society, but none separate from them.
Start Trek’s Prime Directive is an inherently Socialist Ideal and Evil.



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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Prime Directive is largely based upon the Vulcan experience. When a society is preparing to venture into 21st century civilization, I will recognize it and trade with them, but not until then. Trading with a culture that has more in common with the 8th century than the 21st is not profitable for me.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As reasoned as your argument is ProfChuck, Star Trek was all about unrestricted exploration and the expansion of human knowledge, the direct opposite of your conclusion regarding the Prime Directive.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You made numerous correct points, blarman. The distinction between military vs. merchants makes a big difference in this discussion.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The choice of the word "sacred" is not all that critical. If paramount replaces sacred, the meaning of the Prime Directive is not lost whatsoever.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct, khalling, that there was a time when Afghanistan was a culture worthy of doing commerce with, and I knew that before our recent discussion. Afghanistan is not the only country that has quickly gone back to being a primitive culture of unworthy of doing commerce with. Venezuela and Cuba are other great examples.
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  • Posted by trogwolf 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you are not going to adopt the God-given right position, then the only position left is the natural position, which is survival of the fittest: You have only the rights I am willing to grant to you as long as you serve my purposes because I am more fit (stronger than you). When you cease to be of use to me, you cease to have any rights at all. That is the "natural fact". The only role reason plays in that is that those with greater powers of reason are capable of greater degrees and varieties of domination. The right to dominate the weak and the right to serve as a slave in order to live are the ONLY rights derived from the ability to reason to make choices to live in a purely "natural" environment. Any other rights (if you reject the notion of God-given rights) are the fantasy of the deluded.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The elimination of trade is only during first contact situations and is meant to protect the advanced civilization's advantages.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You may claim that this is part of the multiculturalist agenda, but it is not. The Prime Directive's primary assumption is that some cultures are not developed enough to be worthy of doing commerce with, or in other words, have something of value to trade with.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In Star Trek: The Next Generation, the Ferengi species is painted in an unbecoming way for being wealth motivated. I wouldn't call Star Trek socialist, but it's not Objectivist either.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As much as I like both of you, I think we will agree to disagree on this one, db and k.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reminds me of "Dream Park".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Park...

    "...And the Game is great. Set in 1950s-era Papua New Guinea, "South Seas Treasure Hunt" relies primarily on the traditional character classes (fighter, thief, mage, cleric) - anyone even slightly familiar with RPGs will recognize the basic setup. Unfamiliarity with RPGs isn't a barrier, though - the authors helpfully include two beginners in the campaign, a perfect excuse for exposition and introductory monologues.

    The authors picked a really great mythology to work from, too. Off-hand, I can't name even a single other novel that uses the Cargo Cult . . . and Dream Park does a great job introducing it to us. In fact, that's one of the elements likely to keep you reading. But, the basic premise of the mythos

    Spoiler ->is a mix of traditional animistic beliefs and ancestor worship, coupled with elements of 1950s Western culture. "Helped" along by certain local strong men, the Cargo Cult was an attempt to explain why Westerners had such better technology than the locals. They came to the conclusion that God intended such things for all the peoples of the world, but "Europeans" had subverted the minor deities of the Post Office, bribing them into redirecting the crates meant for New Guinea to Western locations. And, if they could figure out how "Europeans" used radios and soda pop to subvert God's will, then maybe they could steal it all back. . ."

    http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/show...
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    -1 point.
    It is the opposite of what you said, although statists would agree.

    Individual have individual rights. Even if most of a society is violating individual rights, it does not mean that individuals don't have individual rights.
    Individual rights are derived from the natural fact that (most) men have the ability to reason to make choices to live.
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    Posted by trogwolf 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Individuals have NO rights other than those that they mutual agree, as MEMBERS OF A SOCIETY, that the society will grant to them as individuals. Or are you going to say that individuals somehow have God-given rights? The PD is absolutely the policy of letting cultures/species see/experience the consequences of their own choices on their own, without interference from a more advanced culture. You are talking in circles and completely missing the point, as well as the mark.
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  • Posted by trogwolf 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "President James Monroe’s 1823 annual message to Congress contained the Monroe Doctrine, which warned European powers not to interfere in the affairs of the Western Hemisphere.

    Understandably, the United States has always taken a particular interest in its closest neighbors – the nations of the Western Hemisphere. Equally understandably, expressions of this concern have not always been favorably regarded by other American nations.

    The Monroe Doctrine is the best known U.S. policy toward the Western Hemisphere. Buried in a routine annual message delivered to Congress by President James Monroe in December 1823, the doctrine warns European nations that the United States would not tolerate further colonization or puppet monarchs. The doctrine was conceived to meet major concerns of the moment, but it soon became a watchword of U.S. policy in the Western Hemisphere."
    http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flas... The reader can determine who is right or wrong about the Monroe Doctrine, the meaning of the word sacred/sacrosanct and whether the PD talks about the rights of societies or the rights of species. You may want to reread your own post.
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  • Posted by trogwolf 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The reason that the word sacrosanct is among the definitions of the word sacred is that people use the word sacred in contexts that DO NOT have a god aspect. If you have never heard somebody say, "Is nothing sacred?" when somebody rummages through their purse or lingerie drawer, then you are perhaps too young or just too inexperienced in life to have had a girlfriend or wife. The use of the word sacred only implies the involvement of god when the context is clear and obvious. This context is clear and obvious that the meaning of the word sacred used is sacrosanct.
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  • Posted by trogwolf 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Except that the Monroe doctrine predates a set of rules written by TV writers by about 150 years. For me, it is about applying a 200 year old foreign policy statement to how best to proceed with Iraq (though I admit that I had no idea that this post - What Ayn Rand would think about the Prime Directive - had anything to do with Iraq. Personally I think the best solution to the problems in those countries is to remove every technological advancement that can be used in warfare, put a huge pile of clubs and spears and perhaps swords in the middle of every village and leave them alone to kill each other until they are tired of choking on their own and each others' blood or they wipe themselves out completely, which ever comes first. Going in ad killing 80 men in a village and carrying off the women is a warfare idea that is thousands of years old and has no place in the 21st century. If they don't want to be part of the 21st century, they shouldn't be permitted to utilize its technology. As a society and culture, they clearly are not ready for the technological advances that have been given to them. By the way countries ARE societies. So foreign policies are also about societies.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She probably never saw the movies where he cited collectivist philosophy.

    I more or less go along with Admiral Kutuzov's philosophy regarding the Prime Directive, as accounted in "Istvan Dies".
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