Did coronavirus jump to humans before the Wuhan outbreak?
Posted by freedomforall 4 years ago to Science
"Researchers from Australia, Britain and the US sought clues about the disease's past and found it might have jumped from animal to humans long before the first detection in the central China city of Wuhan. In fact, these scientists have speculated that it could have been as long as a decade.
The study was released on March 17 in the scientific journal Nature Medicine.
It was conducted by Kristian Andersen from the Scripps Research Institute in California, Andrew Rambaut from the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, Ian Lipkin from Columbia University in New York, Edward Holmes from the University of Sydney, and Robert Garry from Tulane University in New Orleans."
Scientific study or disinformation?
The study was released on March 17 in the scientific journal Nature Medicine.
It was conducted by Kristian Andersen from the Scripps Research Institute in California, Andrew Rambaut from the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, Ian Lipkin from Columbia University in New York, Edward Holmes from the University of Sydney, and Robert Garry from Tulane University in New Orleans."
Scientific study or disinformation?
This verifies what George Webb reveals in his investigations. Of course it was slammed by most for some reason. I guess people would prefer to believe what the lying fake news states versus trying to create a timeline . https://youtu.be/o6Vsj5_-66g
Gw's videos are poorly organized stream-of-consciousness presentations that display lots of dots but fail to connect them. As I said in my previous comment, "The issue is not that it shouldn't be investigated.
The issue is that the messenger doesn't organize the message rationally and it is incomprehensible. Hopefully someone else will be able to sort it out and independently verify fact to support or refute the speculation."
I hope this is a start in that verification.
You may have an innate ability to sort through this stuff, DOB.
Your criticism of Webb is not unique and he is trying to figure out better ways to explain or show a connecting of the dots. When I first started watching George Webb much of what he said was going over my head. FFA like anything you start to learn and understand more and more as you go. Turns out the bad actors in one scheme like Ukraine also are connected to the Trump takedown , to Syria and more....Think of a running investigation being recorded daily and you jump in mid stream we’ll it gives you a glimpse . GW has been building this info about Covid and at hissite you can start At the beginning with him.
This event is historical , I find it fascinating and also exasperating.
Yeah. It could have.
On the other hand, this may be pure speculation.
Maybe, maybe not.
That's why the title I posted is not the article title, and I ask a question instead of making a misleading exclamation. "Scientific study or disinformation?"
I looked at the funding of the center behind the study and it's mostly from fed gov and some foundations. Didn't have time to go another level deeper into the gov agencies or foundations.
The scientists themselves appear to have done good work in the past.
1) The tests in FL are coming out 90% negative for the virus
2) Florida in Oct, Nov, Dec is a destination for MANY of the colder regions, with MASSIVE airports
If you look at the R0 of this thing, it spreads pretty easily. Everyone coming here is either on a Plane or a Ship.
We can ignore the ones in their cars (although that is a lot, they did not drive from Asia, or Even Mexico) to FL en masse.
So, if this thing was around, in the wild, for 3 full months. BEFORE we started counting, and 3 Months AFTER. And the Growth is clearly increasing the way it is, I WOULD CONCLUDE (Correct me if I am wrong):
A) 90% are not testing Positive means 90% has not been exposed WITHOUT any precautions. This damaged China where it grew from a "handful" of cases to MASSIVE by Jan. But a few cases made it to FL VIA Air Travel, and after 3 months hardly ANYONE has noticed?
B) The ARDS this is associated is FLAGGED and TAGGED for exactly these reasons. Our computer tracking models would have noticed the increase ARDS... Even if they did not, once it was tied to this disease, it would be searchable. [This is my understanding based on the coding sheets used by doctors explained in a YT Interview]
Teasing.
I looked at the funding of the center behind the study and it's mostly from fed gov and some foundations. Didn't have time to go levels deeper into the gov agencies or foundations.
The scientists themselves appear to have done good work in the past, but that is also true of some GW researchers who turned to the dark side.
I believe the propaganda is far more dangerous than the virus for the masses.
I certainly hope that the truth comes out, but given the nature of China's government, I doubt that will happen soon - if at all.
Scientific study or disinformation?
I read the NZ.Herald page but I have not dug further, looks ok on the face of it.