China should pay for worldwide release of COVID-19

Posted by $ blarman 2 months, 1 week ago to Politics
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This is strictly a legal case regarding China's false statements to the WHO regarding COVID-19. It doesn't get into the highly likely scenario that one of the reasons the Chinese lied and tried to cover up COVID-19 was because it was genetically engineered in the Wuhan bioweapons facility...
SOURCE URL: https://www.dailywire.com/news/u-s-naval-college-professor-china-should-make-full-reparations-for-damage-to-u-s


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 months, 1 week ago
    My mama used to say that it doesn't hurt to ask, but me dino is more than certain China won't admit to a thing--never mind pay any reparations.
    What I'm for is building our own pharmaceutical industry within our borders.
    Letting creepy Communists control 95% of that industry may have padded a lot of Deep State pockets but to allow this to happen is not only crazy but suicidal.
    As for everything else we buy from China, buy it from someone else. Better yet, MAKE IT OURSELVES!
    And if China doesn't like it and PC pissants want to call that racist--tough Schiff!
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      My dad used to run his own business helping US companies manufacture goods in China. The biggest problem was always Quality Control. Most of the time US manufacturers want less than 2% error rates. The Chinese are used to rates 10x that and more - they just absorb the extra. We'd be much better off making things here for a lot of reasons, but quality would rise substantially.
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  • Posted by term2 2 months ago
    In this age of disinformation, we never seem to get the real deal right out there for us to see. In the absence of real facts, we are left with concluding on our own with the information that IS available.

    China is hiding something, and trying to blame everyone else. They have a bioweapons lab in Wuhan. They seemed to have ID'd the genetic makeup of this virus a little too quickly for me.

    They want to take over the world, and this is a damn good way to do it.

    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
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    • Posted by Dobrien 2 months ago
      They have a bioweapons lab? In Wuhan..hmmm
      Maybe this has something to do with it. Please read what we was paid and for what services.

      Department of Justice
      Office of Public Affairs

      FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
      Tuesday, January 28, 2020

      Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

      The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.

      Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.

      Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.

      Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.

      Dr. Charles Lieber

      According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.

      The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
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      • Posted by term2 2 months ago
        This is very disturbing. I am thinking less of China as days go by
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        • Posted by $ 2 months ago
          Fundamental ideology matters. Communist nations are willing to do whatever they believe necessary to change the world to fit their mold.
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          • Posted by term2 2 months ago
            and stay in power over "their" imprisoned people
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            • Posted by $ 2 months ago
              Without people to control, power is illusory. What most don't realize is that there is only ever one person you can actually control - yourself. And good luck with that! ;)
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              • Posted by term2 2 months ago
                I would say that it is possible to effectively control other people, as Hitler, Stalin, Mao and many others have done. You cant control them 100% and forever, but those people had a good run for their money.
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                • Posted by $ 2 months ago
                  Control or merely threaten/coerce into submission/doing-what-you-want? I guess I look at "control" in a little more austere terms than merely bludgeoning with the secret police...

                  The other problem is that such coercion is short-lived and requires a lot of resources dedicated to enforcement which decreases overall productivity. "Control" of others requires a ton of overhead and inefficiency...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 1 week ago
    Hmmmm. So Trump was right, again.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      It's amazing how many things he gets right that the media want to either excoriate (because they don't fit with their ideological views) or simply brush off as a broken clock scenario. Anyone with any brains and honesty can see that Trump isn't nearly as half-cocked as many want to believe.
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  • Posted by $ Temlakos 2 months ago
    They're going to pay. Maybe not this year, but certainly next. Expect the Trump administration to ask for new laws specifically cutting China off from the drug market, as American companies start producing those drugs locally. Rare earth minerals, same story.
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    • Posted by term2 2 months ago
      We, as americans should just quietly and relentlessly cut back on dependency on china. We have a lot of catching up to do, as they are ahead of us in a lot of areas
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      • Posted by $ Temlakos 2 months ago
        Yes, and they maintain that dominance through one means only: by selling goods barely above cost to themselves, and definitely below the increased labor costs to ourselves. But I already know the quality of their goods leaves much to be desired. In fact, Senator Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) already has introduced a bill to forbid any American hospital, etc., to buy Chinese drugs beyond a date certain, and to support, through regulatory relief or other means, the redevelopment of domestic pharmaceutical manufacturing. I'm sure every sector of our economy would benefit from a system that does away with quasi-legislative and quasi-judicial executive agencies, vests all rulemaking in legislatures only, and requires hypothetically aggrieved people to pursue their grievances in courts of law--not before "administrative law judges." But if it takes explicit protection, so be it.
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        • Posted by term2 2 months ago
          How about getting our government out of the way of domestic production so we can compete with China and just buy American quietly
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          • Posted by $ Temlakos 2 months ago
            We should. We should even try that first. But I wonder whether that would be enough. If it isn't, we should try something else in addition.
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            • Posted by term2 2 months ago
              I can tell you that prior to this last "tax reduction" bill, there was a 5% domestic production tax credit that made it less expensive to produce here then buy from china. Unfortunately, that got cut- which is a mistake.

              Hiring americans here is a real pain in the a%%, between the new law about family leave and sick leave, the difficulties surrounding layoffs and unemployment insurance, the massive penalties if you even accidentally underpay payroll taxes, the payroll taxes themselves, and I could go on....
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  • Posted by Stormi 2 months ago
    This is a war crime, an assualt on humanit, esp. as it was foisted on Italy for China's eventual economic gain, as they killed off so many thousands of older Italians. They had the youngers ones posting sigs, "Hug a Chinese." It was invasion of Italy's economy via virus. Then they had the two arrested who stole virus from US college lab and were headed to China with the virus in tow. China is rotten, and the UN and other world agencies shoud either respond or lose our financial support in the future.
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  • Posted by GaryL 2 months ago
    I am completely mixed on my feeling of this. Yes, I believe China should and will pay a dear price in many ways. The losses of manufacturing will be a big one. Sure we should bring a lot of the manufacturing back to our shores but with this comes the pollution we strive so hard to avoid. Forgetting the facts that pollution created in China or in other even third world countries does in fact eventually affect us all being just one globe. I say bring it back and allow our manufacturers to do their best while we employ many more Americans in industry. I have very little trust in any products labeled Made in China these days.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months ago
      I, too, wouldn't be at all surprised to see a resurgence of "Made in America" in the coming months. Hopefully Trump will use this as a catalyst to further lower taxes and provide the business-friendly environment which makes doing business in China irrelevant in the first place.
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  • Posted by Lucky 2 months, 1 week ago
    https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-bu...

    The coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China, escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. The one in Wuhan.
    ! "Some Chinese researchers are in the habit of selling their laboratory animals to street vendors after they have finished experimenting on them". !
    The street vendors - they sell live animals for human food. dogs, monkeys, rates .. .

    News, Li has phoned Trump, ~ we are all friends now. Bad implications from this for China, Li realizes he is in danger, not just from Trump but from his own upper echelons.
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  • Posted by Abaco 2 months, 1 week ago
    Of course they should. F'n commies. They lied. I was watching and studying this virus for quite some time when the WHO came out and said not to worry. I knew, as I stated here, this was bad. Total BS from China and the complicit WHO. Anti-human, bull crap fest. On our end, we should have been much more on the ball. For starters, Trump needs to establish a CDC office in Wuhan ASAP so that we can observe the goings on there as it occurs with a direct line back to the President, no matter who the President is. Either that or completely close the borders with extremely strict controls.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 1 week ago
      I'd fully support Senator Cotton's bill that encourages closure of trade ties with China and lower overall tax rates on businesses to encourage more "Made in the USA." Our reliance on China for manufacturing has put us (strategically) in a hole.
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    • Posted by $ exceller 2 months, 1 week ago
      "Trump needs to establish a CDC office in Wuhan ASAP"

      You know full well that is not feasible.

      Chine did not allow any access to the CDC after the epidemic broke out.

      You think they will allow a watchdog that would potentially prevent them from manipulating? No way.
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      • Posted by Abaco 2 months, 1 week ago
        Trump could pull it off, I'm guessing. Remember the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules. But, why argue about a pipe dream. You make a good point. If we can place a bunch of huge military bases all over the world, I'm guessing we could work out putting a couple dozen people in a small office in Wuhan. We sure should...

        If you get a chance see Four Corners Coronavirus...a 45-minute documentary now on youtube... You can see some things we couldn't see when they were happening in China.
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        • Posted by $ exceller 2 months, 1 week ago
          I watched the video.

          It is clear the WHO had its share of the disaster by downplaying the seriousness of the spread. I read an article about the Secretary of the WHO who apparently is in bed with the Chinese communists.

          Thanks for the link. It was a disturbing story.
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          • Posted by Abaco 2 months, 1 week ago
            Yes. It's hard to watch. I've warned people not to let their kids see it. This is the internal workings of a commie nation. Just hell on earth. All these woke young Bernie supporters really don't know. This is what "free stuff" gets you - nurses screaming out of their minds and doctors screaming into a phone while people collapse in the corridors... There's your free F'ing healthcare...
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