No question that there are significant legal changes which should be made to make the US a more business-friendly place.

I can tell you that prior to this last "tax reduction" bill, there was a 5% domestic production tax credit that made it less expensive to produce here then buy from china. Unfortunately, that got cut- which is a mistake.

Hiring americans here is a real pain in the a%%, between the new law about family leave and sick leave, the difficulties surrounding layoffs and unemployment insurance, the massive penalties if you even accidentally underpay payroll taxes, the payroll taxes themselves, and I could go on....

We should. We should even try that first. But I wonder whether that would be enough. If it isn't, we should try something else in addition.

How about getting our government out of the way of domestic production so we can compete with China and just buy American quietly

Then you'll have to come up with a "Payback" song

Boycott the bastards!!!

Not reparations. Payback. Take out the leadership and let the people figure it out.

Yes, and they maintain that dominance through one means only: by selling goods barely above cost to themselves, and definitely below the increased labor costs to ourselves. But I already know the quality of their goods leaves much to be desired. In fact, Senator Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) already has introduced a bill to forbid any American hospital, etc., to buy Chinese drugs beyond a date certain, and to support, through regulatory relief or other means, the redevelopment of domestic pharmaceutical manufacturing. I'm sure every sector of our economy would benefit from a system that does away with quasi-legislative and quasi-judicial executive agencies, vests all rulemaking in legislatures only, and requires hypothetically aggrieved people to pursue their grievances in courts of law--not before "administrative law judges." But if it takes explicit protection, so be it.

We, as americans should just quietly and relentlessly cut back on dependency on china. We have a lot of catching up to do, as they are ahead of us in a lot of areas

Yes, it is inefficient to the max. There is also a complete lack of creativity on the part of the "controlled"

Control or merely threaten/coerce into submission/doing-what-you-want? I guess I look at "control" in a little more austere terms than merely bludgeoning with the secret police...

The other problem is that such coercion is short-lived and requires a lot of resources dedicated to enforcement which decreases overall productivity. "Control" of others requires a ton of overhead and inefficiency...

I would say that it is possible to effectively control other people, as Hitler, Stalin, Mao and many others have done. You cant control them 100% and forever, but those people had a good run for their money.

Without people to control, power is illusory. What most don't realize is that there is only ever one person you can actually control - yourself. And good luck with that! ;)

and stay in power over "their" imprisoned people

Fundamental ideology matters. Communist nations are willing to do whatever they believe necessary to change the world to fit their mold.

This is very disturbing. I am thinking less of China as days go by

They have a bioweapons lab? In Wuhan..hmmm
Maybe this has something to do with it. Please read what we was paid and for what services.

Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, January 28, 2020

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.

Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.

Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.

Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.

Dr. Charles Lieber

According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.

The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.

This is a war crime, an assualt on humanit, esp. as it was foisted on Italy for China's eventual economic gain, as they killed off so many thousands of older Italians. They had the youngers ones posting sigs, "Hug a Chinese." It was invasion of Italy's economy via virus. Then they had the two arrested who stole virus from US college lab and were headed to China with the virus in tow. China is rotten, and the UN and other world agencies shoud either respond or lose our financial support in the future.

In this age of disinformation, we never seem to get the real deal right out there for us to see. In the absence of real facts, we are left with concluding on our own with the information that IS available.

China is hiding something, and trying to blame everyone else. They have a bioweapons lab in Wuhan. They seemed to have ID'd the genetic makeup of this virus a little too quickly for me.

They want to take over the world, and this is a damn good way to do it.

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....

They're going to pay. Maybe not this year, but certainly next. Expect the Trump administration to ask for new laws specifically cutting China off from the drug market, as American companies start producing those drugs locally. Rare earth minerals, same story.

I, too, wouldn't be at all surprised to see a resurgence of "Made in America" in the coming months. Hopefully Trump will use this as a catalyst to further lower taxes and provide the business-friendly environment which makes doing business in China irrelevant in the first place.

I am completely mixed on my feeling of this. Yes, I believe China should and will pay a dear price in many ways. The losses of manufacturing will be a big one. Sure we should bring a lot of the manufacturing back to our shores but with this comes the pollution we strive so hard to avoid. Forgetting the facts that pollution created in China or in other even third world countries does in fact eventually affect us all being just one globe. I say bring it back and allow our manufacturers to do their best while we employ many more Americans in industry. I have very little trust in any products labeled Made in China these days.

https://youtu.be/V4-QPX4Jyec

It's pretty clear that the escape of untold Chinese from the Wulhan area were the cause of the virus spreading.

RE...PER..ATIONS.....Come On!...dada da da da da...Come On!...oooh hooo!

One of the most disturbing image was authorities sealing doors shut of infected households. I read that many of them starved to death.