Democracy or Republic?

Posted by $ blarman 3 weeks, 2 days ago to Government
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Walter Williams briefly lays out why the United States is a Republic - not a mob-led democracy.
SOURCE URL: https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/01/29/democracy-is-another-form-of-tyranny/


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    A lot of conservatives need to get into the habit of referring to the USA as "a Republic."
    Methinks lots of times conservatives refer to the USA as "a democracy" due to lazy thinking~~for I've seen this happen time and time again.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 2 weeks, 5 days ago
      Another habit that I have tried to promote -- instead of saying "The fourth of July" -- I state fully, "Independence Day in the United States" -- it is quite a bit to say, but it also makes clear the date instead of the gradual watering down of the date and its meaning.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 5 days ago
        Same here. My relatives and friends have all received the "Independence Day lecture" from me.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 2 weeks, 5 days ago
          Me dino will start doing that, though I think just saying "Independence Day" would be enough if in part due to that space aliens invasion flick.
          Should anyone make a face and ask a "Say what?" I'd be more than happy to educate.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 5 days ago
            It's the "why" that is important in the lecture.
            Calling it "the 4th" is an insult to the people who pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to win the freedom we take for granted.
            Calling it "the 4th" is demeaning of the reason we celebrate. "The 4th" is a celebration of bar-b-que-ing meat, drinking beer, and nothing else.
            Those who want to have us under their control, need us to forget why we celebrate and to forget what freedom really is.
            We must never forget why freedom is of such great value that we must be willing for pledge our lives to protect it. Against enemies foreign and Domestic.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 3 weeks, 1 day ago
    Greetings all, it's been a heck of a long time since I've last logged in and the world has gotten even crazier since. BTW, we are supposed to be a Republic. But that all ended long before we were born. Read on what President Wilson said shortly after he signed into law the federal reserve (about as federal as federal express). He also enacted one of the communist planks (Thanks Rockefellers!) of progressive income tax. The Republic ended (IMHO) in December 1913. Later all!
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    • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      Yes “UncommonSense. We are in an “Uncivil War”
      This interview should be reQuired for all who vote.
      https://youtu.be/8RgRGWlDo70
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      • Posted by $ pixelate 2 weeks, 5 days ago
        The interviewer, G. Edward Griffin, is also the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island -- a history of the U.S. Federal Reserve System. Mr. Griffin is still alive and sharing his message. I recently attended his Red Pill Expo in Mesquite Nevada where he, and others, gave presentations regarding topics of interest to members of The Gulch.

        The next Red Pill Expo will be held June 6-7, 2020 on Jekyll Island, Georgia -- the location of the creation of the Federal Reserve Act.
        https://redpillexpo.org/
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        • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 weeks, 5 days ago
          Thank you for adding excellent additional content to my comment. Griffin is a true patriot. His work has exposed a conspiracy that is only denied by the brainwashed or guilty.
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  • Posted by $ exceller 3 weeks, 2 days ago
    The favorite accusation of the left when they criticize ANY move by the president or the GOP is that it is "against our democracy".

    It sounds good and the mob has no idea what it means. It is the favorite slogan in the EU, as well.

    They usually come forward with it when some outrageous push to establish tyranny fails.

    Let them scream. Maybe it'll kill them for good.
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    • Posted by $ 3 weeks, 1 day ago
      I think it was very telling when the original party of Jefferson (the Democratic Republicans) changed its name under Andrew Jackson to just the Democratic Party. Non-coincidentally, that was when Jackson himself started appealing to his popularity with the people for his high-handed approach to government. Many laud him for being a strong leader, but he really was the father of the modern Democratic Party and a move away from a Republic towards the "tyranny of the majority." That "progress" took another major leap forward with the adoption of the Sixteenth Amendment (income tax - which gave them a tool to punish dissent) and the Seventeenth Amendment (direct election of Senators - which eliminated the major check on the Federal Government by the State governments).

      If this coup attempt by the House goes through to Impeach Trump, it will spell the end of our Republic and the descent into a democracy.
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      • Posted by $ exceller 3 weeks, 1 day ago
        It won't go through.

        Nevertheless, Piglosi announced the next crappy slogan to be used by the left going further: Trump is "not acquitted b/c there were no witnesses called in the Senate".

        Rest assured that it will be repeated ad nausea till November.
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        • Posted by $ 3 weeks, 1 day ago
          I seriously doubt that the House has time to pursue another impeachment inquiry - no matter how much Pelosi may wish otherwise. Most members - even on the Democrat side - are tired of it and more importantly, this is an election year and EVERYONE in the House is up for re-election. That means they have to get out and campaign or they are doomed to be voted out in November. Remember, the Primaries are happening now (and realistically have to be firmed up by April) and even the incumbents are going to face challengers from their own parties. I think Pelosi has played out her hand - and lost. Will they try to remove Trump again after the elections? We'll see if they hold the House. I don't think they'll have the votes to bring it back up again even if they do, as I think these shenanigans are going to bite them hard in November.
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          • Posted by $ gharkness 2 weeks, 6 days ago
            Hope you are right about that. The number one priority for all conservatives should be making sure that the Dimocrats lose the House and that we retain the Senate. Otherwise, it'll be back like a bad nightmare.
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            • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 6 days ago
              Fr Trump's second term, the repubs need to have a majority in the house, and a supermajority in the senate so we can make some real changes that support our constitution.
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              • Posted by $ 2 weeks, 5 days ago
                60 votes in the Senate to avoid all this nonsense "filibustering" by avoiding cloture would be awesome.
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                • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 5 days ago
                  we realy need 60 real votes in senate supporting what trump wants to do. Not just republicans, some of which like Romney, Collins, Murkowsky and perhaps a few others are closet democrats
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                  • Posted by $ 2 weeks, 5 days ago
                    I believe that Collins is up for election this year but I don't see her getting primaried. Murkowski isn't up for another two years. Romney not for four.

                    While I'd love to have more Constitution-loving Senators, I'll take even a RINO over a Dem. It may not seem like much, but at least there's the possibility of a vote in the right direction rather than simply a rubber stamp by the DNC talking heads.
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                    • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 5 days ago
                      true. Frankly all I expected from Trump was to slow down collectivist movements, not stop them totally. the deep state is just too much to expect Trump to move mountains
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  • Posted by redison 2 weeks, 6 days ago
    One aspect of the Republic is the Electoral College and how we elect our President. All the Democrat's keep talking about the popular vote that Hillary won. It is the states that elect the President and not individual votes.
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    • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      If we got rid of the electoral college, that means we would then have a true democracy (translation mob rule). It also means the there would ONLY be democrats elected who offered to buy the votes of the uneducated.
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      • Posted by $ 2 weeks, 6 days ago
        Democracy is exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid. They had studied ancient Athens and the rise and fall due to democracy.
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        • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 5 days ago
          I have read a number of articles about the rise and fall of civilizations and the conclusion is that typical ly they last 250 years +-. 1776+250= 2026. Assuming Trump gets elected in 2020 and leaves in 2024 to a far left democrat, this prediction would just about fit for the USA.
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        • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 5 days ago
          Democracy is like putting the inmates in charge of the asylum, or the employees in charge of the twentieth century motor company. There are just more people on the left side of the IQ curve than on the upper part of the right side, such that there will be a dumbing down of a true democratic culture.
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    • Posted by $ 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      Correct. That's because the President is supposed to be the chief administrator of government - the chief of the Executive Branch. The Legislative Branch doesn't include the House of Representatives for nothing...
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  • Posted by $ brightwriter 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    In defense of a republic not a democracy:

    Suppose your vital organs could be harvested to save two or more lives. Then the seriously ill people who need them, and who outnumber you, would have more votes to have you killed and disassembled for transplant parts than you would have to oppose them and stay alive.

    Therefore, a pure democracy is fatal.

    A republic offers a defense, albeit not a perfect one, of life, liberty, and property. Here, we have a strong argument that pure democracy is incompatible with life. Enslavement of the talented per popular vote, if permitted, would rescind liberty. Tax-the-rich already is known as an attack on property.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    The most damning and arrogant thing Pelosi said during the impeachment hearings was that she regarded the House as the supreme branch of government, because it represents "the people," and that the President should obey the will of the people. That single statement throws out completely how our government is structured, ignores the fact that the House and the Senate together are the legislative branch, equal in standing with the Executive and Judicial branches, and essentially declares herself a monarch, able to issue decrees to which the president is subordinate.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    I watched the Norman Dodd video which is incredible. It fed my revolutionary fervor. The revelation by Todd amplified my belief that the entire government bureaucracy and the US public educational system has been and still being corrupted by those foundations. I thank my college professor who heavily influenced my inner rebelliousness to learn the history of revolution. I still believe that either a full-blown revolution or civil war will change what is happening in this country. I'm sorry, Ayn Rand's philosophy will not work until such a scenario happens.
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