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WHY Do ELECTED Officials Dismiss Positive Information About Coronavirus?

Posted by Flootus5 4 years ago to Politics
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I would say this question needs to be expanded to include the entire media apparatus.
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  • Posted by $ HarmonKaslow 4 years ago
    Exactly. Any positive or rational response to the crisis would undermine the narrative and their desire to change the entire World's economic system. The cable channels treat the numbers like it's baseball game, but don't provide a context to understand what those numbers (e.g. cases / deaths) mean NOR do you ever see the numbers of "recovered".
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    • Posted by freedomforall 4 years ago
      Yes, where are the numbers for "serious" cases requiring hospital care? What are the demographics of those cases? What are the preexisting conditions of those with serious cases? What percentage of those die? What percentage of those that test positive have no symptoms and do not get any symptoms? Is there ever any testing of people with no symptoms?
      How can anyone rationally judge their own risks without good information?
      Garbage in, garbage out.
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      • Posted by Flootus5 4 years ago
        It is a relief to be part of this group in discussing these matters. FFA immediately starts adding to the list of questions that should be considered by a responsible government (what does that look like) and an "independent press". Well done.

        I am a member of another list-serv that is supposed to be politically innocuous. It is just for those that like to collect license plates. There are many clubs across the nation and the globe and there are some large conventions held every year that are now cancelled.

        I posted that cancelling a huge convention that is off in July may be premature and just pandering to the hysteria. Man, did I get piled on by shrieking hysterical posts citing all kinds of unsupported statistics and painting apocalyptic visions of millions dead and lockdowns for two years, etc., etc., etc.,.

        So, I sent in a post with some links to voices like this article calling for a calmer approach. The known ultra lib moderator of the list-serv shut me down citing the reason that I was way off topic!

        By talking about the panicdemic leading to cancellations without considering some other voices calling for a more rational approach to these matters. Voices including the likes of Dr Victor Davis Hanson and others. Decisions directly leading to cancellations of annual events that many look forward to. With all the attendant loss of economic activity of the travel, the hotels, the restaurants, etc. Off-topic?

        I am astounded at how effective this scorched earth policy has been in such a short time.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 4 years ago
          I am too. I have been saying all along....this happened SO fast, SO easily, people just gave in from the very beginning!

          Fear can do that, I guess....and the elected officials are very good at fomenting fear, and people are really good at social bullying. *But apparently bullying is okay as long as it's for the "right" reason.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
    I really like when they talk about somebody who's not elderly dying from this...with zero mention of a pre-existing condition. Hint: That means they had one.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
    This may sound nutty. But, communists and collectivists, in general, need bad times so that they can try to make their concepts take hold. Just this morning as I was making my breakfast there was news of a big, national movement to stop paying rent. Of course. Bring down the man! That's not helpful - any fool can see. All these instances where Trump could have been lured into more military action and he didn't take it. They didn't like that one bit. They need bad stuff to happen. You can bet they'll use this crisis to promote their agenda.

    ...like I said...sounds nutty. But, I can't think of a better explanation for the question asked.
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    • Posted by exceller 4 years ago
      "national movement to stop paying rent"

      Temporarily.

      Would you rather throw people out on the street to increase the homeless numbers?

      That would be a great solution.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
        Well...you've guilted me into it. I lowered the rent on my tenant. Actually, I already did that before being guilted. And, I will continue to do so for several months. But, maybe you've solved the homeless problem...LOL - just STOP paying the rent altogether... You assume landlords can just absorb it. Ever try being a landlord? We're not all sitting around smoking cuban cigars in our top hats...
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        • Posted by exceller 4 years ago
          I did not assume anything and never advocated stop "paying the rent altogether" as you nonchalantly implied.

          The temporary moratorium is for one or two months, as I understand and the missed payments are added to the bill, so it is NOT a freebee.

          Not everyone has a comfortable job, with uninterrupted deposits with their company.
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          • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years ago
            Yes you did. You gave the choice of letting renters stop paying "temporarily" or "throw people out on the street". I reduced the rent already. How about that? Is that an option?

            I used to rent to a family that had three kids. Very nice family - Fijian Indians. Loved them. When they'd hit tough times I'd float them. That's unusual for me (because I'm an asshole, as you might imagine). I remember when I sold that place. They moved out and I visited the father at his place of work to hand him the total deposit back. He looked at me and started to cry when he said, "Thank you for looking out for my family." I'll never forget that. It really, really bothered me to see him like that. Will stick with me forever.
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            • Posted by exceller 4 years ago
              That is commendable and puts you in the "good landlords" category. Not all of them are like that.

              You believe whatever you want, regarding my "choices". I did not "choose". Reflected on what I know about moratorium for renters for a certain period, which means delayed payment not free rent.
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            • Posted by Lucky 4 years ago
              Good story.
              Call it 'enlightened self-interest'.
              If the economy has turned down and you throw out a tenant for not paying rent, you will find you have to offer a lower rent to get a new tenant. Better to make an offer to the existing people.

              When I was a landlord, I always checked up on applicants, I told them they could check on me as a landlord by offering previous tenant's ph nos.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years ago
    If Ayn Rand were still alive, she would add a chapter to Atlas Shrugged on the coronavirus and how you should never let a good crisis go to waste.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 4 years ago
    "Never let a crisis go to waste." It's a hallmark of the Progressive mindset to use catastrophes and crises to change policy in the name of "doing something." This was championed by Woodrow Wilson, who used the excuse of WW I to start America down the road of bigger centralized government and FDR (and Hoover before him) expanded on that. Modern-day progressives have taken this even farther; one need only look to the healthcare "crisis" to see the ACA. What is even more insidious is that modern-day progressives have taken to creating the very crises that they then claim needs more government intervention to solve, such as the housing crisis. Reagan was right when he said "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
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  • Posted by term2 4 years ago
    They want to put only negative information out there so people will be more docile and go along with government control. Its disugsting.

    That woman that Trump puts out there in his press conferences actually predicts 100,000 to 200,000 DEATHS in the USA as the BEST scenario. I dont get it, when the entire world hasnt reached anywhere those numbers, and deaths in the USA are at about 2500.
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    • Posted by RevJay4 4 years ago
      If you're meaning Dr. Birx, keep in mind that she is a CDC person. A partner to Dr. Faucci.
      The number she is spouting is from the original modeling(similar to what they did with the global warming/icing/climate changing computer modeling) done by the Imperial College(UK), which did not take into account any counter measures to lessen the effects of the Kung Flu in the computer model. From what I understand, once the social distancing, etc. are taken into account, the numbers drop hugely.
      Simply, they are spreading the accepted rumors to fit the narrative favored by the lefties. The purpose is to turn us all into the sheeple they want to control. Couldn't get it done with the global whatever plan, go to the health scare with the help of the chicoms.
      Just sayin'.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years ago
    A somewhat pessimistic view would suggest that politicians, the lamestream media, those self interested corporations dismiss positive news on any front not in alignment with their agenda, news that would deflate their desired bubble and spoil their ruse as a purely defensive move and discredit the opposition.

    Yes, it's difficult for those normal, to think of good news, a cure, more accurate data or observable truth to be in opposition, a threat to our existence, even if it means we wasted our time on the wrong thing, the wrong idea or the wrong data.
    We would be relieved and glad for those that would fall victim or just to know that the sun will shine brightly tomorrow.

    But for those that created the ruse, those that sought to take nefarious advantage of the situation take offense, lash out, blame everyone else or just plain ignore the news...after all, they, in their own heads, are better than the rest of us.

    That is why they dismiss good news, they are nothing like us, they are not one of us, they are not part of the Human family by choice, by perversion or some mental retardation...a disease there is no cure, except to be wary of and to never do business with.
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  • Posted by $ brightwriter 4 years ago
    Let's remember that tests themselves aren't perfect. If you can withstand some algebra, see my analysis of the predictive value of a test at http://harshman.name/Linked-To_Materi...

    Be sure to ask about the specificity of a test (the likelihood that a true negative will be reported as negative and not as a false positive). Remember that for a rare condition an imperfect specificity generates a ridiculous percentage of false alarms, a fact that the Medically Organized Relying On Nonsense (MORONs for short) hope that we won't learn.
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  • Posted by gafisher 4 years ago
    The disease is real, and by all accounts highly contagious, but far, far less dangerous than the left in media, government and elsewhere wants to acknowledge. The cheap (to produce) quinine derivative treatment appears to be highly effective, so much so that it could have cost the left their advantage had they not effectively shut it down for weeks. And while at least some on the left - NYC Mayor de Blasio comes readily to mind - did little to stop the spread of the disease and in fact much to encourage it at first, seeming almost to want it to boil over before addressing it, once the public was fully into crisis mode they've been very quick to suppress rights, limit liberties and in general turn democracies into what would only a few months ago have been recognized as police states.

    COVID-19 may qualify as a pandemic, but the crisis is manufactured - I've been calling it a Dem Panic - and just as tyrants have used artificial calamities in the past to seize control, it may be we are witnessing a tectonic-level reshuffling of our country and of the world.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 4 years ago
    For some time now certain politicians, Democrats mainly, from certain states, New York, California, Illinois come to mind, and most of the liberal media have been touting the nanny state mentality for any number of social reasons be it obesity, climate change, personal habits, an endless list. The goal is ostensibly for the greater good in spite of the general public's objection to such intrusions into all aspects of one's personal life. Now the time has come to act with states of emergency being declared with sweeping powers of control over just about everything that lives and moves or inanimate and standing still if it cane be used by the living and moving. The object is liberalism's power or creeping socialism which once in place will be hard to undo. The doom and gloom scenario is tailor made to achieve this end. Once the precedent is set it will be much easier for drastic actions to be enacted the next time a threat is imminent!
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 4 years ago
    If Barrack Obama was still president we would see joy and happiness surrounding every positive story. We would hear about the heroic leadership he provided.....if he broke wind during a speech we would hear how this also was a sign of his Christ like leadership. Why the reporting for Donald Trump is different??? You will have to draw your own conclusions.
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