The Decline Continues

Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 3 months ago to Culture
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Won't get into the details much. But, a close coworker of mine (architect, fellow alum of a fantastic school, and Atlas Shrugged fan) were just talking in the hall. We can both see it as plain as day. It's getting worse and worse. Many of the people we deal with in our work are getting dumber. Meanwhile, we hear stuff said by most of the presidential candidates - we hear Pelosi talk - we see our state unraveling, and we wonder how this is all going to end up. I bet that my fellow Gulchers who are not working, but retired, may not see it as much. But, from where we're at the mental state of our nation is in rapid decline. I guess we shouldn't be surprised. We hear some proposals that just leave us shaking our heads anymore. I'll stop here, but I could write a book on this...unfortunately...


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  • Posted by exceller 4 years, 3 months ago
    I can attest to that.

    Our company (a Fortune 100) is doing it effectively, e.g. dumbing the workforce.

    The mechanism is implemented via layoffs. The Co lays of hundreds of workers, mostly those with many years of experience and an intelligence level that is "not needed" any more.

    Once the layoff is done, they rehire the same workers even though you'd think the layoff was to facilitate reduction. The new hires are juniors, who supposed to do the same job for a lesser pay (one of the advantages) and of course for a lower level of performance b/c they don't have the experience or expertise.

    But top management is convinced this is the right way to go as long as they pocket their years bonus of millions of dollars. The dumbing of the workplace is the last of their concerns.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 4 years, 2 months ago
    Well, it has been declining. But it is not yet time to throw in the towel. (I am not retired, just unemployed; I still am strong, and young enough to work, though there is age discrimination.)
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  • Posted by Katrina41 4 years, 3 months ago
    Trickle-down dumbing is showing more and more of its ugly head out here among us retired folks. Whether it's a talking head on any media whatsoever or the simple question posed by a younger member of my writers group. After reading my contribution, she looked very confused. "Why do you need so many different words?" I actually shivered as I tried to explain that words have shades of meaning and to create that meaning I carefully choose those words. She couldn't understand that if there are no words to define a concept, an idea, an emotion, that information is lost. Read "Anthem".
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 3 months ago
    AR was very good at predicting what will happen. Things will progress pretty much along the path outlined in AS for MANY years to come, until at some point things get bad enough where more and more people will hopefully will have had enough and open their minds to rationality and individualism.

    I dont have a lot of hope for that, however. Look at Venezuela and how they put up with socialism for so long when its totally failed. You could give out millions of copies of AS down there, and I suspect nothing would happen. Its very depressing actually.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 years, 2 months ago
    My wife and I went to a neighborhood after New Year's Eve party and I was surprised how ill-formed many retirees are ill-informed and several others aren't politically astute. Others are true believers in Climate Change. Since there is a growing population of retirees in this country I'm concerned that this local microcosm is a may represent to nation as a whole.
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  • Posted by mshupe 4 years, 3 months ago
    It gets even better - "BlackRock, the world's largest investment firm, will put sustainability at the center of its investment strategy going forward, according to CEO Larry Fink's annual letter to chief executives."
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    • Posted by $ 4 years, 3 months ago
      Yeah...I just don't get this. I actually held Series 7 and 66 registrations and worked in finance until my kids needed more time that I could give with two jobs. This approach toward putting sustainability at the center only has one positive - admiration from the useful idiots. It's a money-loser. Is it possible Fink was made an offer he couldn't refuse? Is he unwell? I can't figure it out. You can be good to mother earth without destroying what sustains your business.

      I have been saying it for a few years now. I think our country and western civilization is in big trouble. The loons are climbing to the top of the mountain they didn't build and are being allowed to blast it with dynamite.
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      • Posted by exceller 4 years, 2 months ago
        "I actually held Series 7 and 66 registrations and worked in finance"

        I did, too.

        Passing Series 7 was like a Bar exam.

        What you are describing applies to me as well. I left the financial sector in utter disgust. Using sustainability as a criterion is the same "concept" as the "Green New Deal" by the brainless Cortex. The fact that CEOs embrace this idiocy only shows their total uselessness. They don't care b/c they have their "contract" to come out of it winners even if everything collapses.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 4 years, 3 months ago
        Run don’t walk from this plan being continuously pushed the idea of Sustainability Governed by Scientists controlled by the Deletes telling US what we can have and how much of it. Fuck them and their push for slaves. In the 1930s, through the influence of Howard Scott and the technocracy movement he founded, the term technocracy came to mean, 'government by technical decision making', using an energy metric of value. Scott proposed that money be replaced by energy certificates denominated in units such as ergs or joules, equivalent in total amount to an appropriate national net energy budget, and then distributed equally among the North American population, according to resource availability.[11][1]

        There is in common usage found the derivative term technocrat. The word technocrat can refer to someone exercising governmental authority because of their knowledge,[12] or "a member of a powerful technical elite", or "someone who advocates the supremacy of technical experts".[13][3][4] McDonnell and Valbruzzi define a prime minister or minister as a technocrat if "at the time of his/her appointment to government, he/she: has never held public office under the banner of a political party; is not a formal member of any party; and is said to possess recognized non-party political expertise which is directly relevant to the role occupied in government".[14]
        Examples Edit
        In 2013, a European Union library briefing on its legislative structure referred to the Commission as a "technocratic authority", holding "legislative monopoly" over the EU lawmaking process despite being unelected.[21] The briefing suggests that this system, which relegates the European Parliament to a vetoing and amending body, was "originally rooted in the mistrust of the political process in post-war Europe." This system is unique, since the Commission's sole right of legislative initiative is a power usually associated with Parliaments.

        The former government of the Soviet Union has been referred to as a technocracy.

        The American economist and sociologist Thorstein Veblen was an early advocate of technocracy, and was involved in the Technical Alliance as was Howard Scott and M. King Hubbert (who later developed the theory of peak oil). Veblen believed that technological developments would eventually lead toward a socialistic organization of economic affairs. Veblen saw socialism as one intermediate phase in an ongoing evolutionary process in society that would be brought about by the natural decay of the business enterprise system and by the inventiveness of engineers.
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    • Posted by Orwellian 4 years, 3 months ago
      That's why I don't use them and don't trust a lot of the large firms. You MUST examine how they invest and what they advance as their goals or you will support the looters.
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      Posted by CircuitGuy 4 years, 3 months ago
      " will put sustainability at the center of its investment strategy going forward"
      The world is getting better all the time. We have equity separated from liability, a somewhat recent development, AND we are developing ways to make sure that doesn't lead to businesses taking actions that the owners would be ashamed to take if they were also running the business. This is a very good thing.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 3 months ago
    Hey Dow Chemical started this layoff practice years agp. A 20 year employee, age 42 (college education) is riffed but someone is immediately hired in his place. Fortunately another Fortune 500 company immediately hired him.
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    • Posted by term2 4 years, 3 months ago
      I am not very impressed by our large companies. I think that we were better off with smaller companies, smaller cities, smaller states, and an infinitely smaller federal government.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 4 years, 3 months ago
    There have always been people of limited mental abilities. If we did a fair study I bet we'd find it's getting better and better, not worse and worse. I can imagine the questions:
    - Do people have an absolute right to follow their dreams without regard to their race, sex, family origin, etc, as long as they're not treading on others' rights?
    - Is it ever acceptable to demand satisfaction in a duel? Suppose someone lies and claims to have had a relationship with your wife or mother; is it acceptable to beat them?
    - Is it acceptable for people to peaceable carry signs saying something unpopular, offensive, and incorrect, e.g. Christianity is responsible for the world's problems.
    - Is it okay to slap your wife around if she's being an over-the-top nag or shrew?
    - If a woman travels without a man, is she sort of asking to be harassed?
    - If you make something through hard work, do you have a commandment from god or just good moral values to share what you made with people who tried hard but didn't create wealth?
    - If the leader of the country provides protection, is a good role model and is approved by religious leaders, is it okay for that leader to demand high taxes without accountability and to undermine other people wanting to become leaders?

    I think more people today than ever would answer on the side of liberty.

    If our kids hang out with kids who are depressed or getting in trouble, we worry it will rub off on them, even if our kids know better. The same is true for us. Don't hang out with troubled people all day. Hang out with excellent, amazing people. Methodically move away from projects, jobs, clients, vendors, friends, etc who area all fired up about whether Pelosi made Trump look stupid or vice versa. They're the same people making people shuffling credit/blame for the people who get things done in the world. Don't write a book on the losers of the world. Find awesome people to write a book on.
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