Star Trek Discovery and the Conflict of Values
Star Trek: Discovery delivers a complex drama in which the values of the characters define the set and setting of conflict. Moreover, the integration of plot and theme provide a grand stage on which to see the consequences of values in the choices of action.
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When I read my first Lee Child I was surprised to learn that he has a significant female readership. I had a suspicion he has an eye on the politically-correct market, on reading more I find those themes are becoming tiring.
a commander should command the whole operation not just a part of it,
and I like the reference to inheritance.
As you say it a common fault. In visual media it is hard to convey the technical and analytical competence required for success in war, or managing railroads, but easy to portray heroism. The simple and lazy approach is to show the heroism and imply the mental competence, and combine all in the main character.
(My question was on a (mis)perceived objection to troops on one side in violent conflict disguising themselves in a vehicle of the other).
When Roddenberry first envisioned "Star Trek" he thought of it as a "Wagon Train in space." In the TV show Wagon Train we have the main characters (wagon master, scout, cook, lead guy number 2, and maybe another), but a changing cast of settlers moving West as each train is assembled and transported. Each Wagon Train episode was a story centered on a settler as the continuing action provided an "arc" across the season. It was very innovative for the time.
The essential perception in science fiction in general and Star Trek in particular is that the viewer responds to the characters actions from values based on ideas rather than the color of their skin - blue, or green, as it happens - or their gender (of which the species with five might be us after all).
Do you find it impossible to cheer for R2D2 because it has no race or gender, but is just a machine? I just do not understand your philosophical assumptions as related to that statement: "... being put off by all the women in authority..."
Back in the 20th century Armin Shimerman told me at a Star Trek convention that he was an admirer of Rand, and had read The Fountainhead in college and was going to read Atlas Shrugged ahead of filiming the coming season. As you know, he played Dr. Ferris in Atlas Shrugged.
Anyway... I have not seen the episode "Starship Down." I will watch it. I do know the other episodes. "The Great River" was highly entertaining. I just tried to find the Quark speech I remember but keep getting directed to a different episode with the same lines, apparently. Planet Ferengeron never had slavery.
That said, I am not sure that it is a "legitimate complaiint" when judging art. Again, consider the difference between Rand's consistent condemnation of ante-bellum Southern society and her praise for Gone With the Wind. Would GWTW have been a better story told from the viewpoint of a southern abolitionist? (Sarah Moore Grimké (1792–1873) and Angelina Emily Grimké (1805–1879).)
And we do have "libertarian" science fiction such as Alongside Night and other works by J. Neil Schulman (who just passed last August). Also, L. Neil Smith's Pallas is just one in a series of realistic scifi. His "Bucketeers" yarns are more fantastic. They spin off of his alternate universe from The Probability Broach with its laissez-faire society. Not surprisingly, he wrote a series of Lando Calrissian books.
Just for one thing, although I produced of a showing of Alongside Night here in Austin. It was not as good a production as Discovery not by lightyears. Ideology is not a substitute for craftsmanship. (On my blog here: https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2... )
First, I disagree about Burnham's "death wish." Remember that she was raised on Vulcan. She is accepting the judgment of the court martial. I agree that she being something a martyr in her head - oh, woe is me; I deserve this; but I tried to do the right thing and look where it got me - but that would be in line with what we know from basic criminology andd penalogy. Some convicts go through "stages" as they mature into their sentences. Most claim to be unjustly accused and wrongfully convicted. I think that she is just accepting her sentence as a logical outcome of her actions.
Context is important. I mention that in the context of the episode "Context is for Kings." Lorca says, "Absolutes are for slaves." Rand called her philosophy Objectivism, not Absolutism. Absolutes exist. Context is how they are applied. It is why we go around in circles here on questions such as capital punishment and abortion. Some admireres of Rand's works want absolute answers where they cannot exist. Context defines the answers. Read Rand's speech at West Point and other commentaries on the war in Vietnam.
Context is not expediency. In "The Vulcan Hello" the line that slides by is that the Vulcans first crossed into Klingon space when they were fired upon. Also, the next line is that "until a treaty was established..." So, there was a treaty. Negotiation was possible. Burnham's errors from that point just compounded.
I think that overall the writers did a great job on this, even as they made other mistakes and left oversights and omissions. Unlike novels and movies, TV writing is a production process on schedule, more like factory work. Sometimes quaility is only five 9s.
(I have not seen Season 2. We are number 55 in line for 1 of 11 copies at the city library. Laurel could get it on Amazon.)
This is a legitimate complaint, but it varies from episode to episode. In Treachery, Faith, and the Great River, the Nog does work and makes a bunch of trades and everyone ends up better off. They treat it as if it's some kind of weird anomaly. I don't know if the writers were tongue-in-cheek, but it leads you right to "wow, doing work and making trades made everyone happy. Who would have thought it!?"
In Starship Down, Quark debates economics with an alien who paraphrases parts of The Communist Manifesto. I got the idea the writers were trying to show both sides but clearly didn't understand the capitalist side of the argument. Even worse are preachy episodes like The Neutral Zone that are cringe-worthy in their self-righteousness.
Most episodes don't get into the details on laws and economics, so it's easy to create liberty-friendly head-cannon.
It is our viewpoint character, Commander Michael Burnham, who must confront hers. She is never without values. "
I don't know if they planned it this way, but I love how it worked out. Burnham makes a series of horrible mistakes and has a death wish. She ends up on Lorca's ship. Lorca starts out seeming like a person who has to not follow principles out of expediency, as if it's going to be a story like In the Pale Moon Light, where the viewer is left to decide if crimes are justified if they help end a war against and existential threat. But it turns out Lorca is following a different set of values.
I like how Pike said in Season 2 said explicitly "I'm not [Lorca]" and that they would try to have some fun. It's almost like he was breaking the fourth wall to tell the audience.
Watching this show reminds me of how I felt watching TNG in the late 80s. It wasn't the Trek I knew but it still was Trek.
Never saw the show on TV, just saw it on Netflix and thought I'd give it a try. I only watch the vids during the most boring of times...just to stay awake on the late shifts...laughing, just waiting for something to break in the building.
As I stated, I'll see if that changes.
Just to say about Discovery Cdr. Burnham and Capt. Georgiou board the Klingon ship. But we are told that Starfleet is for explorers and scientists, not soldiers. I would have polled the crew for who had weapons training or security experience or had been decorated for bravery, etc., and put together a plan. But I do not write for television.
We'll see if I change my mind...I am still on the edge of doing so.
MM, could you please elaborate, explain this?