Apparently they did not have to look long and hard to find evidence of a role in the Manning affair. We will see whether they can prove it, unless they kill him first.

" Officers in the military had plenty of warning about Manning's dubious state of mind and they did not take action."

That appears to be the MOD in the military.

If we take several of the past events with tragic ending, the signs were always there, according to facts revealed later.

Why the military was not concerned? Maybe their tolerance level is higher than that of civilian society (although that needs a revision as well, just thinking of the school mass shooters, for example).

Manning's story is quite a tale. From one viewpoint, it could appear to be that Manning was just trying to get revenge on the military system that he volunteered for when it didn't meet his personal needs. On the other hand, some despicable actions by government officials should be made public regardless of the motive of the whistle-blower. The military is not the life for everyone. Officers in the military had plenty of warning about Manning's dubious state of mind and they did not take action. After the fact one might conclude that they had to persecute Manning to cover up their own shortcomings.
In my opinion, the feds are the ones who should be investigated and punished for violations of the constitution and possible war crimes. Assange should be freed and left alone.

Assange was accused, on dubious grounds, of rape by two Swedish women and holed up in the embassy to avoid being sent there because he expected Sweden to hand him over to the US. Of course once he hid there, that made him a bail jumper in the UK and got him where he is now. It's been a year since he completed his sentence for bail jumping and the Swedes no longer want him, but he's being held pending extradition requested by the CIA.

I tend to believe the real mover behind his present mistreatment is GCHQ, which stands to be embarrassed if Assange is ever put on the witness stand even in a closed US court.

Like the other two, Manning blew the whistle on wrongdoing by officials. That always requires violations of official secrets (since the biggest use of official secrets is by evil people protecting themselves) but it isn't wrong and has no business being banned.

What ever happened to freedom? Shouldn’t be a crime not to cooperate with endless investigations

They looked long and hard to find an excuse to stop him from exposing the bad actions of the deep stste

Assange isn't being prosecuted for telling us about the deep state. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

Snowden can't be pardoned without without turning against the whole national policy of mass surveillance.

Trump can't pardon Assange in advance because of the nature of the specific crime he is accused of: helping convicted felon Manning to break into computers to steal military secrets. That is very different than Wikileaks publicizing things that politicians don't want known.

There is no doubt that Manning was guilty. He boasted about what he had done, which led to his arrest, after which he confessed. Obama commuted his sentence and he was released in the spring of 2017 after 7 years in prison. He did not almost immediately go back to prison. Almost two years later in 2019 he was jailed for contempt of court for refusing to cooperate with grand jury investigations into Assange's role in stealing the military secrets Manning had been convicted for.

What was "the" secret of the atomic bomb? The Rosenberts were arrested in 1950 and convicted in 1951 for spying for the Soviets. Everyone already knew there was an atomic bomb by the end of the war. The military secrets passed to the Soviets by the Rosenbergs were on the ongoing development of the bombs.

The German-born communist physicist Klaus Fuchs had been spying for the Soviets while working on the atomic bomb in Britain and then beginning in late 1943 in the US. He was arrested in 1950 back in Britain after Soviet codes were broken by the US, exposing his role. He confessed and fingered others in the spy ring, leading to evidence that resulted in the arrest of the Rosenbergs. After the fall of the Soviet Union documents in Soviet archives further confirmed their guilt.

I agree, Assange and Snowden shold be pardoned. They released the truth. When Dems use a whistle blower, they protect his privacy. These two men were releasing truth. Were it not for Assange, we would not know about the deep state, the Hillary headinjury in Iran plane crash, the corruption in the DNC, and so much more. We need peopel like this, and the hoax charges against Asange makes one wonder why Brits are getting involved at all.

I think you mean A Few Good Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3...

To paraphrase "Officer and Gentleman": the gov't can't handle the Truth!

I don't buy that Manning was any more "guilty of real espionage" than the other two. In any case he/she went back into prison almost immediately and is still there.

But Trump ran, at least in part, on a promise to get rid of the Deep State. And the DS, for its part, is still actively attacking him and blocking implementation of his policies. This suggests either that the promise was a lie, or that there is an active struggle going on and the DS, so far, seems to be winning it.

I'm willing to give him some benefit of doubt and assume, for now, that the DS is holding on because Democrats now (and Democrats plus RINOs during 2017-18) control the House of Representatives, thus preventing any major changes to the system by Trump. So let's do our best to give Trump a filibuster-proof majority this year. But if the DS is still strong in 2024, there may be no solution short of opening that fourth box.

I read about the Rosenberg Trial in The Implosion
Conspiracy by Louis Nizer. It said (as I recall) that at one point it was decided that the jury should be told the secret to the atomic bomb, but that somehow this part of the trial would not, naturally, be made public. The jury, I assume, was told that they would have to keep secret what it was.

This is 1984.

Obama pardoned Bradley Manning, guilty of real espionage, as a symbol for the counter-culture, but all of them -- from Obama to Trump and the political class across that whole range -- want to destroy Snowden and Assange. You don't have to only doubt Trump's willingness, he has publicly spoken out against and denounced these real whistleblowers (except during his 2016 campaign when he liked Wikileaks for its expose' of Hillary). To pardon them would require publicly opposing the entire mass surveillance state and more, which are not an aberration but entrenched policy.

Assange used to run the famous Wikileaks for many years, which is how you heard of him. Several years ago he barely managed to hole up in the Ecuador embassy in London to keep from being dragged off to some equivalent of the gulag under prosecution by several governments. Last year his protection was revoked by the embassy after being confined there for 7 years and he was physically dragged out by the police. https://www.france24.com/en/20190411-....

In addition to his current British imprisonment tortured in solitary confinement without medical care, several countries want to extradite him (in several different directions at the same time).

After all the people like Assange, Snowden, and other "whistleblowers" have done to expose government injustice-by-design, sometimes becoming at least briefly known for it by the public, almost everyone is too busy with their own lives to follow this enough to see both the lack of reform and what happens to those who expose the corruption. Once out of the mainstream public eye, they are essentially punished and brutalized mostly outside the court system.

The torture scene near the end of Atlas Shrugged was good romantic fiction to make a philosophical/psychological point, but is not realistic. There will most likely be no rescue for Assange.

Here is why: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Josef Goebbels

For me, the fact that he and Snowden haven't been pardoned, casts grave doubt on both President Trump's ability and willingness to really root out and destroy the Deep State (meaning specifically those "intelligence community" officials who have been telling presidents how to run foreign policy from the Eisenhower administration to the present day).

I think I had read the name of Julian Assange before, but didn't know these things about him. Who is trying to get him extradited to the U.S.? Perhaps it would be a good thing is we could rescue him. I don't know much about it, but I do know about the cases of Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans.

The recent espionage charge against Assange was for conspiring with Bradley Manning for unauthorized access and dissemination of wartime military secrets. Manning was properly convicted for that long ago, but Obama pardoned him. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

But that is not representative of most of what Assange has done. Governments have been after him since long before that and cannot make the distinction.

Torture without a public trial that would publicize the essence of his career campaign is what they would also like to do to Edward Snowden. Snowden has recently been interviewed about his new book Permanent Record https://www.amazon.com/Permanent-Reco...

Recent interviews covering his current status:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k19Ip...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4nFG...

We need the Assanges to keep the politicians from hiding things that should be public. Trump should pardon him in advance, but he wont before the election anyway. Same is true for Gen Flynn and Snowden and the others Mueller tortured

A lifetime of being buggered against your will or being Arkancided might not be an improvement. There are few attractive options for one who exposes the deep state's crimes.