Hello LibertasAutLetum, I am not sure what you are suggesting. I have said no such thing. I routinely do government work and I have never seen a government run enterprise that can compete with a private one. I believe you have misread something or I have not made my self clear. Perhaps you meant to address this comment to another party and replied in the wrong place? Respectfully, O.A.
Not sure whom you are addressing this to, but for my part I agree that the cost of government purchases would increase dramatically, thereby hastening its inevitable collapse.
So you are saying that if the Federal Government opened its own manufacturing facilities and stopped hiring civilians who compete against each other to offer the lowest price, it would somehow magically reduce the cost of military equipment? Please show me some shred of evidence that this would be even remotely true.
I think you are mistaken at best, willfully ignorant at worst. I work for a government contractor. The projects we work on will be done and get paid for regardless of who works on them so wouldn't you rather it be a civilian and not a government employee? We get awarded our contracts because we compete, in a free market, against other civilian companies by offering the best service at the lowest price. (Capitalism anyone?) How dare you suggest that I am a fascist "feeding at the trough"? Do you honestly believe that if the Federal government performed these tasks behind closed doors, writing their own checks to themselves, and NOT allowing a highly competitive market decide the cost that it would indeed reduce the tax consumption you are talking about?
Hello johnpe1, Sad that more Americans don't see it for what it is. I understand from my nieces and nephews that history, social studies, and civics are not taught in the way they once were. The responsibility lies with the same statist, villains from on high... Regards, O.A.
Thank You for calling it what it is::: fascism. the central direction of private enterprise *plus* govt.
39 years ago, when I hired on at k25 in oak ridge, davis-bacon was the egregious law which kept us from doing anything over $2,000 in value which might be done by a subcontractor -- like hanging a high-speed overhead door on the fire station -- without jumping through hoops with lawyers and piles of paper to prove that we (as the prime contractor) could do it as well as they could. this new EO makes it MORE costly and litigious. -- j
If we cannot right the ship, I prefer to rip the bandage off as opposed to a slow nagging pain! At this point the collapse does seem more plausible. All the sooner we can get back to building a proper foundation, one way or another.
All excellent points of fact. My admittedly somewhat unforgiving comments are ultimately founded in the conviction that leviathan's collapse is inevitable. This is not a matter of "if" but of "when". Since it's inevitable, anything that will hasten the process is "good" in my book. The sooner the better, don't you agree?
Hello Helidrvr, Many of my customers are manufacturers that have worked for the government in the past and some still do, but this will just add more cost to the production and gouge the taxpayers unnecessarily.. Too many hoops to jump through and lawyers to protect yourself from the leviathan. This is why our Arms (planes, tanks, etc.) cost so much. Now more honest suppliers will just opt out. Respectfully, O.A.
P.S. One more note: Fascism will in many cases present itself without collusion. All it takes is the government control and mandates. Many businesses will merely comply because of necessity and pressure. They will not do it of their own initiative.
You're absolutely correct. But they may hasten the collapse.
I'm one of those private entrepreneurs myself. Since I depend on govt. for nothing now, I'm not too worried about surviving with less of it at some point in the future.
I was referring to truly private contractors who do not work for Govt. They can compete with union contractors. And, no, under statist rule as we are with Obama, higher costs will not lead to cost control.
Justice between two entities would be called a fair trade. I doubt that a fair trade is possible if one of the entities is the federal government.
I am not sure what you are suggesting. I have said no such thing. I routinely do government work and I have never seen a government run enterprise that can compete with a private one. I believe you have misread something or I have not made my self clear. Perhaps you meant to address this comment to another party and replied in the wrong place?
Respectfully,
O.A.
Please show me some shred of evidence that this would be even remotely true.
I work for a government contractor.
The projects we work on will be done and get paid for regardless of who works on them so wouldn't you rather it be a civilian and not a government employee?
We get awarded our contracts because we compete, in a free market, against other civilian companies by offering the best service at the lowest price. (Capitalism anyone?)
How dare you suggest that I am a fascist "feeding at the trough"?
Do you honestly believe that if the Federal government performed these tasks behind closed doors, writing their own checks to themselves, and NOT allowing a highly competitive market decide the cost that it would indeed reduce the tax consumption you are talking about?
Sad that more Americans don't see it for what it is. I understand from my nieces and nephews that history, social studies, and civics are not taught in the way they once were. The responsibility lies with the same statist, villains from on high...
Regards,
O.A.
Indeed! It would be a day for a happy dance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNLbAs3K...
Respectfully,
O.A.
central direction of private enterprise *plus* govt.
39 years ago, when I hired on at k25 in oak ridge,
davis-bacon was the egregious law which kept us
from doing anything over $2,000 in value which might
be done by a subcontractor -- like hanging a high-speed
overhead door on the fire station -- without jumping through
hoops with lawyers and piles of paper to prove that we
(as the prime contractor) could do it as well as they could.
this new EO makes it MORE costly and litigious. -- j
Shakespeare said: "Brevity is the soul of wit!"
Sometimes I wish I was wrong more often.
Regards,
O.A.
Many of my customers are manufacturers that have worked for the government in the past and some still do, but this will just add more cost to the production and gouge the taxpayers unnecessarily.. Too many hoops to jump through and lawyers to protect yourself from the leviathan. This is why our Arms (planes, tanks, etc.) cost so much. Now more honest suppliers will just opt out.
Respectfully,
O.A.
P.S. One more note: Fascism will in many cases present itself without collusion. All it takes is the government control and mandates. Many businesses will merely comply because of necessity and pressure. They will not do it of their own initiative.
I'm one of those private entrepreneurs myself. Since I depend on govt. for nothing now, I'm not too worried about surviving with less of it at some point in the future.
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