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The Fascism Gets Deeper: Obama’s new executive order.

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 9 months ago to Government
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More arbitrary executive branch control over business!?!?


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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The leaders of the SA thought they were tight with Adolf but they guessed wrong. Guessing wrong that case had dire consequences.
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  • Posted by Jim1Wood 9 years, 9 months ago
    Those who contract to do business with the federal government are compelled to accept its whims... or else.

    Justice between two entities would be called a fair trade. I doubt that a fair trade is possible if one of the entities is the federal government.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello LibertasAutLetum,
    I am not sure what you are suggesting. I have said no such thing. I routinely do government work and I have never seen a government run enterprise that can compete with a private one. I believe you have misread something or I have not made my self clear. Perhaps you meant to address this comment to another party and replied in the wrong place?
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure whom you are addressing this to, but for my part I agree that the cost of government purchases would increase dramatically, thereby hastening its inevitable collapse.
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    Posted by LibertasAutLetum 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So you are saying that if the Federal Government opened its own manufacturing facilities and stopped hiring civilians who compete against each other to offer the lowest price, it would somehow magically reduce the cost of military equipment?
    Please show me some shred of evidence that this would be even remotely true.
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  • Posted by LibertasAutLetum 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are mistaken at best, willfully ignorant at worst.
    I work for a government contractor.
    The projects we work on will be done and get paid for regardless of who works on them so wouldn't you rather it be a civilian and not a government employee?
    We get awarded our contracts because we compete, in a free market, against other civilian companies by offering the best service at the lowest price. (Capitalism anyone?)
    How dare you suggest that I am a fascist "feeding at the trough"?
    Do you honestly believe that if the Federal government performed these tasks behind closed doors, writing their own checks to themselves, and NOT allowing a highly competitive market decide the cost that it would indeed reduce the tax consumption you are talking about?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello johnpe1,
    Sad that more Americans don't see it for what it is. I understand from my nieces and nephews that history, social studies, and civics are not taught in the way they once were. The responsibility lies with the same statist, villains from on high...
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago
    Thank You for calling it what it is::: fascism. the
    central direction of private enterprise *plus* govt.

    39 years ago, when I hired on at k25 in oak ridge,
    davis-bacon was the egregious law which kept us
    from doing anything over $2,000 in value which might
    be done by a subcontractor -- like hanging a high-speed
    overhead door on the fire station -- without jumping through
    hoops with lawyers and piles of paper to prove that we
    (as the prime contractor) could do it as well as they could.
    this new EO makes it MORE costly and litigious. -- j

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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you Herb7734,
    Shakespeare said: "Brevity is the soul of wit!"
    Sometimes I wish I was wrong more often.
    Regards,
    O.A.

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  • Posted by Solver 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's more like putting leeches on a deep gash leg wound. Short term gain, long term pain. And boy are those leeches expensive!
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If we cannot right the ship, I prefer to rip the bandage off as opposed to a slow nagging pain! At this point the collapse does seem more plausible. All the sooner we can get back to building a proper foundation, one way or another.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    O.A. says it all in one sentence: "The fascism gets deeper."
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All excellent points of fact. My admittedly somewhat unforgiving comments are ultimately founded in the conviction that leviathan's collapse is inevitable. This is not a matter of "if" but of "when". Since it's inevitable, anything that will hasten the process is "good" in my book. The sooner the better, don't you agree?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Helidrvr,
    Many of my customers are manufacturers that have worked for the government in the past and some still do, but this will just add more cost to the production and gouge the taxpayers unnecessarily.. Too many hoops to jump through and lawyers to protect yourself from the leviathan. This is why our Arms (planes, tanks, etc.) cost so much. Now more honest suppliers will just opt out.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.

    P.S. One more note: Fascism will in many cases present itself without collusion. All it takes is the government control and mandates. Many businesses will merely comply because of necessity and pressure. They will not do it of their own initiative.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're absolutely correct. But they may hasten the collapse.

    I'm one of those private entrepreneurs myself. Since I depend on govt. for nothing now, I'm not too worried about surviving with less of it at some point in the future.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was referring to truly private contractors who do not work for Govt. They can compete with union contractors. And, no, under statist rule as we are with Obama, higher costs will not lead to cost control.
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