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Who here is old enough to remember Global Cooling?

Posted by Pecuniology 3 months, 2 weeks ago to Science
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This is the winter, during which your leftist 'friends' on Facebook will remind you over and over and over and over and over and over that weather is not climate, unlike a few years ago, when an unseasonably warm winter was absolute proof-positive of Global Warming™.
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/are-you-ready-catastrophically-cold-winter-heres-what-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you


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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I recall in the '70s predictions that NYC would be under a sheet of ice by 2000. Then predictions in the '90s declaring NYC would be under water by 2020. Of course, there's that 2012 outlier that was so absolutely sure that Hollywood made a movie of that very title. The latest I've seen is by the imbecile AOC pegging the Dastardly Date of Doom (DDD) in about 11 years now, but the New Yellow Times has the DDD moved to 2040. Whatever.
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    • Posted by 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      Meanwhile, the sun will become a red giant in 5 billion years, destroying the earth, and no one is doing anything to stop it! Even if they did, what about the heat death of the universe?!? Does Trump have a plan for that???

      I didn't think so.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
        Are you saying those deeply concerned pseudo science finger pointers are NOT trying to halt the great red sun due to our own fault?!! I'm speechless here, Pecuniology! I also can't stop laughing! LOL!
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        • Posted by 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          Recently, the Congressman who represents the District where I live sent a mass mailer that listed his 'accomplishments'.

          He tells us that sea levels in South Florida are rising "ten times faster than"—it's unclear if he meant ten times as fast as or eleven times as fast as—the global average, which is hard to fathom, because water generally does not pile up. Worse yet, he is not calling for us to evacuate. Instead, he brags about some Congressional Caucus that he cofounded, so that Congressmen can sit around talking about Teh Climate Change™, rather than design solutions and release the patents into the public domain.

          It's almost as if he and his peers felt that reality drips from the tips of their quills, and that the legislative process grants godlike powers to the holders of elected offices.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          Yeah, me too. I think it's criminal that "woke" people like Greta haven't skipped school at least once over this (actually) inevitable issue.

          I mean, surely if she blamed enough people, she could convince the sun to stop in its tracks.
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          • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
            Hmmmm, if one is a disciple of AOC then what is the point of going to school at all? A doomed imbecile is just as doomed as anyone else. :-)
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            • Posted by $ blarman 3 months, 2 weeks ago
              But how are you going to tote the party line unless you attend the public indoctrination centers - I mean schools?!? We must keep spending more money teaching people alternative ways of thinking (Common Core) that don't actually solve real problems efficiently or someone might actually challenge our socialist agenda with facts! [/sarcasm]
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            • Posted by 3 months, 2 weeks ago
              Postmodernism underlies the K-PhD curriculum. Among its axioms are that the universe is a figment of one's imagination, reason is a Western patriarchal myth, words do not have objective meanings, and every race has its own arithmetic.

              By their own 'logic', then can just identify Teh Climate Change™ away.
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              • Posted by Storo 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                Perhaps we could all come together with the left and, in our imaginations, think, hope, wish or (do I say it?) pray global climate change away!
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                • Posted by 3 months, 1 week ago
                  We could, but then they would move the goalposts, remind us that Hitler was an environmentalist, and scream "Naaaaaaaaaaziiiiiiii....!!!!" like the Body Snatchers that they are.

                  Ignore their words. Judge them by their deeds.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 3 months, 2 weeks ago
        AOC has a plan! Eliminate cow farts for the next 5 billion years!
        Oh, wait . . . never mind.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          On a more serious note, has anyone noticed the rise in the price of beef lately? Is it just my imagination or is it just in my local area (Western NY), or is it becoming rather epidemic?
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          • Posted by $ gharkness 3 months, 2 weeks ago
            It’s a result of the flooding back in the spring in Iowa and surrounding states. I have a friend who lives in that are and she gave me the heads up on that (for meat as well as vegetables). Probably wheat too, though we don’t eat wheat. Definitely could do a number on bread prices, though.

            As a result we stocked up on several hundred dollars’ worth of meat. Of course it will eventually run out but maybe by then the price will be back down.

            Edited to remove a “false start” on a paragraph that has already been added.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
              Thank you, gharkness. It will likely be temporary in that case. I was thinking maybe the environmentalist movement against beef may be taking a toll somehow I'm not aware of. Maybe the Bureau of Land Management was successful in driving too many ranchers out of business and causing government induced shortages.
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              • Posted by $ gharkness 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                Well, there's a possibility that it's both, but most cattlemen (I'm from Texas) that I know are quite set in continuing their family livelihoods - at least, as long as they can, and I doubt it's different in Iowa. Farming seems to be deep in one's bones, if one is so "afflicted." :-)

                However, the BLM could be a problem - I am sure there are nuances surrounding that that are quite opaque to me.
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  • Posted by $ Temlakos 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I am. And I researched the original files, including a CIA document worrying about active warfare--a repeat of the Great Cimbric and Teutonic Migration and the wars with Rome that followed. I did that research when I broke the original Climategate story.
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  • Posted by Mitch 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    This topic is so richer then majority of the world’s population believing in a fallacy but that only a small fraction of the population is aware of a completely different theory. Originally linked from the Gultch…

    I’ve been following this topic now for almost a year, November 2018. Very interesting theory Professor Valentina Zharkova has published, it’s possible and seems very likely she is correct.

    How she discovered her equations is an organic find; typically, the most accurate as she didn’t set out to predict the solar cycles. She is a mathematician by education and was working as an astrophysics, studying the sun. She took the known recorded magnetic pole data (each pole, the sun has two sets) and put it through component analysis to generate a trigonometric function describing the position of these two poles. What she found is that when the poles are opposed, we have many sun spots and a more active sun; inversely, when the poles cancel each other, we have a quieter sun with fewer sunspots and output. She ran her equations though the know records of sun spots with 97% accuracy. She ran the equation forward and has predicted a “grans solar minimum” like the Maunder Minimum beginning in 2030 (many have dubbed it the Eddy Minimum). Some are saying it is beginning now as the next solar cycle is predicted to be so weak that our next solar cycle 25 will be considered the beginning. Solar cycle 25 is predicted to be less then half as strong as solar cycle 24 (NASA, Zharkova is predicting 80%), which was the weakest solar cycle for over 200 years (Dalton Minimum).

    With the man-made global warming hysteria, its nearly impossible to speak with family and friends about this topic. You see the crazy look when you attempt to speak with them about it, so I’ve given it a rest for the moment. My issue, like many that have researched this topic is that we are not prepared; it will become very ugly very quickly when the inter city grocery stores are empty.

    If you need more proof of the damage this will cause, look at this growing session. A late start due to flooding in the spring and now an early frost in the mid-west with 50% of the crops still in the fields. See the link provided for this thread. This is just the beginning; year after year of poor crop yields will have grave consequences for our world.
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    • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      When you combine Zharkova's work with the work of Heinrick Svensmark it paints a bleak picture of the next 30 years.

      Svensmark has provided some theoretical underpinning to the long noted linkage between sunspot activity and climate first noted in a paper by Sir William Herschel in 1801 correlating sunspot activity with the price of wheat.

      While the correlation was known, the mechanism was not. The change in radiance between sunspots an no sunspots is minimal. However the solar wind increases with sunspots and the solar wind blocks cosmic rays.

      Svensmark theorizes that in times of low sunspot activity the cosmic rays increase and increase cloud layers which increase the Earth's albedo leading to cooling -- except over the poles because Ice has a higher albedo than clouds. Some of this was confirmed via experiments at CERN.

      I've been expecting cold as a result of this for the last 15 years, based on observable trends in cycles 23 and 24. When Zharkova's paper came out, I became much more certain.

      It's too bad the "Global Warming" religion is blocking all serious climate science.

      I will also note that the Wikipedia article has increasingly downplayed Herschel's paper over the last 15 years -- but you can read the actual paper on the internet.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember climate not mattering because, with the earth's (over)population bomb, too hot or too cold we would all be starving and eating each other.
    I also remember, as a student of geology in the 1970s, the academic consensus being that the world's oil would be depleted by 2020.
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    • Posted by 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      Peak Oil, Acid Rain, Suburban AIDS, Ice Age, Global Warming, Overpopulation, Desertification, Silent Spring, Deforestation, Noise Pollution...

      Pretty soon, they'll have to start recycling Crises of the Week.
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  • Posted by GaryL 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Global warming, Climate Change, man made or not and I don't care what you call it. Mother Nature has the west coast burning and the south end was under water and the east coast has hurricanes while the north and north east are feeling an arctic blast and all the money in this world can't stop the next violent volcanic eruption from thrusting us into the next Ice Age in a very short time.
    All just a big time Money Grab by global alarmists who will have it all spent before the time ever comes. Keep your Shorts and your long John's handy because the predictions are about as accurate as your current weather reports.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember reading the articles in the 80's about acid rain as the next global boogeyman and seeing old copies of Popular Science with the global cooling articles in them. So many hoaxes cooked up by "scientists" trying to scare everyone into things...
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    • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      Interesting, Blarman. I just saw an article listing a couple of Upstate NY lakes as being in the top 10 of the most clean and beautiful lakes in the US. The acid rain hysteria predicted they'd all be dead cesspools by now. Something just ain't right!
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  • Posted by GregoryRMatthews 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Yea, they wanted to cover the North Pole in ash to stop the coming Ice Age due to humans being evil or something. The ash thing can be found every easily on the internet. I remember it as a cover page for News Week I think. Not hard to find.
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  • Posted by term2 3 months, 1 week ago
    Wouldn’t land, home, and business values would be rapidly changing if there was imminent climate change? Seaside property should be plummeting in value
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    • Posted by mccannon01 3 months, 1 week ago
      Yes. I've said elsewhere in the Gulch we would know the left was serious about AGW when their elites have a massive sale on beach front property. Notice Obummer just bought a spread on Martha's Vineyard.
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    • Posted by 3 months, 1 week ago
      I live in South Florida. My backyard ends on a canal that has sailboat access to the ocean. The houses in my neighborhood were built in the early 1950s. I can see where the high and low tide lines were three-quarters of a century ago on the seawalls across the water, and the difference between then and now is measured in millimeters and not in feet.

      Prices of houses in my neighborhood are higher than they were, when I bought my house. And, remember, they were built in the early 1950s (concrete block and poured concrete, of course; only an idiot lets his children sleep in a matchstick-frame house).

      Those are the facts (along with one parenthetical opinion).
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  • Posted by EdKent 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember this well. We were using up all of the fuels and would freeze.

    The solution: Higher Taxes

    It all comes down the same base problem.and people today do not understand the basics.

    We need MORE Taxes. <--- Sarcasm

    So, we will just be taxed (as we were to prevent the '70s Ice Age) to prevent Global warming.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Yeh, it's funny how they pick and choose and negate and approve for their own purpose. Just like all their data "proving" man-made global warming.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Jeane Dixon had predicted that Armageddon would take place in 2020. She previously predicted the world would end in 1962. She predicted that President Kennedy would be assassinated and claims to have known that Nixon would be elected. But now, AOC tells us we've still got a few years left.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember global cooling. Their timeline was wrong and they could not have known of the recent magnetic pole excursions which complicates matters. They also were not aware of the full implications of the Sun's effects upon earths climate, ocean currents, volcanic eruptions nor earthquakes.
    I also wonder if they were ever aware of the reliable Grand Solar Minimum cycles of warming and cooling.

    Yes we are headed into a cooling spell but the greater concern is our weakened magnetic shields, the increase of cosmic radiation and magnetic pole reversal. These occurrences fit right into our recent investigation of a 12-15K year catastrophe cycle and the Sun's Micro Nova cycle...the last one was "The Flood".
    See: suspicious0bservers.org for more information on the subject. Much time and effort has been spent on vetting the material out. The latest videos show how that process has proceeded.
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    If there is one thing that human beings are good at, it is our ability to adapt to the climate, one way or another. We have never been able to change the climate or even significantly alter it through accident or malfeasance. We adapt. The extinction of man will not be due to climate change. Maybe a meteor strike or a super volcano or some virus....
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    • Posted by 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      I live in Florida. When it is hot outside, I run the air conditioner. When it is cold outside, I run the heater.

      They even have shopping carts at Costco and Wal-Mart, so that we can practice walking on our hind legs.

      There's a technological solution for just about everything.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Me old dino was born in 1947, or the movie setting for "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"
    Think I was in the Fifth or Sixth grade when I read in a TEXT BOOK (of all things) a scientific opinion that we had yet to emerge from the Ice Ages and that our sunny time of respite--think of us being in the eye of a hurricane--would again be assailed by an enormous creeping sheet of ice.
    Knowing that sheet would creep soiuth ever so slowly and living in Alabama, me dino was kinda hoping to live this long to see that ice sheet start up in Canada yet once again.
    That would have been far more interesting than to hear all the phony politically-slanted blather about what's really about what the sun wants to do.
    That wild force of nature in the sky doesn't care if we all turn into socialist cow fart eliminators or even exterminate ourselves for the crime of being planetary parasites.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Yes....about 1971, it the readers digest. I remember asking my dad about it and he told me I would be long dead before then.....This somehow didn't make 12 year old me feel better. ....I was going to die anyway!!!??? and apparently that was somehow a good thing because the coming ice age wouldn't get me.
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 3 months, 1 week ago
    When I was in Junior High School (1971-73), my parents bought me an encyclopedia set, which included options to purchase annual updates (Yearbook and "Year in Science"). Well now, my 1972 Science Annual has articles in it that talk about impending doom from "acid rain" and "Earth's long-term cooling trends" (due, I guess, to all the industrial pollution and soot that was being pumped into the air, thus blocking out sunlight, resulting in global cooling). I still have that reference in my personal library. Of course, one article did point out that "greenhouse effects arising from CO2 could possibly mitigate the inevitable cooling trend to some degree," but scientists agreed that the dominant effect was cooling. Besides we were overdue for the next Ice Age anyway... But, I guess we just know so much more now... :-)
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I love the "more severe weather" comment as well.
    So tired of all of them!

    I usually turn it around and say "What year can we say it is actually too late and you shut up about it because there is nothing we can do?"
    Followed with...
    Don't talk to me about it until AFTER that year!

    Thanks!
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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    We need to use their tactics against them. For example I saw a story about a high school football league that was being governed by these controllers. They had a rule that would and did result in a coaches suspension for scoring 45 points more than the opponent. The coaches should have came together and changed the score for a touchdown and extra point as a tenth of a point. as .7 vs 7 whalla 70-0 win becomes a 7-0 win . We have to keep fighting back at these morons.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember reading a warning (threat?) about a summer such as the "summer of 1816", supposedly because of pollution of the atmosphere such that the sun's rays would be impeded from getting through. I think it was in a magazine in 1972 or 1973.
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  • Posted by Danmlee 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Speaking on this subject is there anyone out there "As Pink Floyd put it" talking at all or even remotely discussing the "Chemtrails" being spray, dropped or whatever the right way to explain it because from what I understand the "Secret" reasoning and I use that phrase because the military deny that it is happening and we are all conspiracy nuts but the global change that is happing they are with chemicals seeding the sky to change the change.
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    • Posted by $ Dobrien 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      I have discussed this many times on this forum. Initially I received many negative responses. They denied any such spraying was occurring . Evidence such as photos of planes fuselages reconfigured to dispense these nanoparticles of aluminum and berium were ignored. So were true “whistleblower s” reporting of what they exposed from the inside of the military. Of course many have been indoctrinated to believe there is no such thing as a conspiracy. Even while a conspir@cy of a vast scope is being exposed daily. That being that Trump is a Russian agent hoax or now the star chamber auditions to determine who will lie the best in the public impeachment hearings. What I call the Schiff show.
      I watch the skies regularly this year has had far fewer chem trails than previous few years, but I watched them crisscross the sky yesterday till just one big milky cloud resulted.
      I don’t condone or approve of this pollution.
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    Yup! We were headed to a new ice age. Supposedly it was being caused by the SOx & catalytic converters. It seems the converters were oxidizing the SO3 to SO4 which forms a more persistent aerosol causing the upper atmosphere to reflect away too much sunlight. Imagine that, they were blaming the anti-pollution devices even back then. Kinda like the whole DPF/DEF debacle they've caused these past few years.

    "Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them." Problem is it's the idiots in DC who forgot the mistakes, and the rest of us who are doomed by their incompetence!
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  • Posted by Storo 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    I remember Global Cooling, and of memory serves, Jimmy Carter went on national tv to warn us about it!
    This piece is great and supports the idea that our climate and weather are both beyond our control, an that we mere human beings can do little to change it. If the climate is going to change it will, whether our beachfront homes will end up under water or not.
    But there’s a bright side - maybe a series of brutally cold winters will put Washington DC in a deep freeze and we can get back to our lives.
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