'Mental instablity': Psychiatrists Who Called Trump Dangerous Want to Testify on Impeachment
Posted by Pecuniology 4 years, 5 months ago to Politics
"A group of medical experts who claim that President Trump's mental health makes him dangerous and unfit for office is seeking to testify during House impeachment proceedings.
"The group, comprising four psychiatrists, a clinical neuropsychologist, a neurologist, and an internist, are planning to announce their availability next week to members of Congress and the media. They'll also be available to consult privately with members of Congress, with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, or with members of Trump's cabinet."
"The group, comprising four psychiatrists, a clinical neuropsychologist, a neurologist, and an internist, are planning to announce their availability next week to members of Congress and the media. They'll also be available to consult privately with members of Congress, with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, or with members of Trump's cabinet."
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So who do you want me to defame?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0O...
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Still sticking with an older model:
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This was the last large model with the leaping Jaguar on the hood. They discontinued that and now it costs $1,500 to have it installed.
Plus the new owner of Tata Motors of India went for the design that does not distinguish the Jag from an economy Japanese car. It is noisy, too. I drove a new model recently: noisy, beeps and whistles at every turn and corner to "warn" you of potential danger. And it goes for a whopping $100K.
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Let's just say there were some who pretty much sailed on what I could not describe as an even keel.
The top doctor was the most eccentric one there.
To say that most of the "mental health experts" I got to know were not sailing on an even keel is an understatement. Lot of nutjobs in that field.
Another thought that comes to mind regarding these "volunteers" is like a scene from the "Body Snatchers" where this cadre has been infected and whenever a non-infected individual, like Trump, shows up they all freeze in unison, point at the individual, and start chanting "oooooooooooooooo..." until the victim can be infected into the herd or killed outright.
Your comment is more of an analogy than a metaphor. The Soul Snatchers do want to assimilate all of the non-infected.
Savvy Street articles are generally quite readable.
Hicks is friendly with David Kelley and a Senior Scholar at the Atlas Society.
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The hate is understandable, considering that a Philosophy professor who learns Objectivist is critical of Postmodernism.
It is one of the favorite methods of dictatorial regimes to use against their opponents because it cannot be proved or disproved.
Pelosi is using it against the president when she said the other day that she "was worried about Trump's mental health.
But of course she is not worried about Biden's idiocy or the entire DS establishment like Brennan who certainly comes across as someone mentally deranged or Schitty with his obversion about "evidence" that he has never presented.
"We don't believe there is the need for any further evaluation, and we are making ourselves available for the impeachment hearing because we believe that mental health issues will become critical as pressures from the impeachment hearings mount."
In other words, they're begging the question and treating the conclusion as a self-evident axiom.
I'm sure Schiff and Pelosi will find a way to get these guys on stage... er ah... I mean in the witness stand.
Never interrupt an adversary, when he is injuring himself.
In these times anyone can offer "expert" opinion about anybody and the press will gobble it up. Especially if they can use it against their favorite hated man, Trump.
I watched some of these "expert" testimonies in court trials.
The testimonies are easy to abuse because they are specific and the lawyers don't know what questions to ask for verification.
Many of these "experts" are making good money by regularly appearing in court trials.
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_pr...
[Scroll down to Mental Health, and click on the link, then hover over the names of the professions.]
Welcome to the USSA. This is what Frankfurt School psychologizing of political differences looks like.
Do they focus on emotions or actions?
“Lay down here and tell me how that made you feel”
Hopefully Doctor Dino Allosaurus will be along shortly to diagnose my seriously deranged conservative leanings from afar.
My guess is: yes.
If this attitude doesn't reflect badly on their entire profession it should at least convince anyone in their current care that they should be seeking advice elsewhere!
Is anyone here old enough to remember Michael Avenatti or Robert Mueller?
The word expert is overused, it normally means someone who the speaker wants to quote to show the speaker is right.
Psychiatry is a branch of medicine, complex, evidence based (well more than not), requires high IQ ( distinguish IQ from sense), it studies brain/body functioning and failure, it has its own special medications which can be criticized as are other medications.
As in other branches of medicine a psychiatric opinion should be based on physical examination and medical diagnostic tests.
Psychology studies human behavior as individuals rather than groups (as sociology). It has little in the way of rational under-pinnings, the research tests may be large but the flaws of logic and experimental procedure are large, it is a field nearly always inappropriate for what it is supposedly used for. Large tests with vague results may benefit from statistical analysis, psychologists have expertise here on a par with climate scientists. The language style used by practitioners is complex to cover up the lack of content, the famous tests such as MyerBriggs have value only for entertainment. A psychological opinion does not need to be based on tests as there is little objective basis. The theory still has carry over from Sigmund Freud, one of great frauds. It belongs with the social sciences (using the word science loosely), social political diversity gender studies.
Psychologists study individual human behavior. They infer what is going on in their subjects' minds.
Types of anti depressants Citalopram (Celexa, Cipramil)
Escitalopram (Lexapro, Cipralex)
Fluoxetine (Prozac, Sarafem)
Fluvoxamine (Luvox, Faverin)
Paroxetine (Paxil, Seroxat)
Sertraline (Zoloft, Lustral)
Serotonin–norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) Edit
Desvenlafaxine (Pristiq)
Duloxetine (Cymbalta)
Levomilnacipran (Fetzima)
Milnacipran (Ixel, Savella)
Venlafaxine (Effexor)
Serotonin modulator and stimulators (SMSs) Edit
Vilazodone (Viibryd)
Vortioxetine (Trintellix)
Serotonin antagonist and reuptake inhibitors (SARIs) Edit
Nefazodone (Dutonin, Nefadar, Serzone) – withdrawn/discontinued in most countries
Trazodone (Desyrel)
Norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (NRIs) Edit
Atomoxetine (Strattera) - an NRI approved to treat ADHD
Reboxetine (Edronax)
Teniloxazine (Lucelan, Metatone) – also a 5-HT2A receptor antagonist
Viloxazine (Vivalan)
Although marketed as an antidepressant, a meta-analysis found that reboxetine was ineffective and potentially harmful.[1]
Norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitors (NDRIs) Edit
Bupropion (Wellbutrin) – weak NDRI, although its dopaminergic actions are controversial; may act as a norepinephrine–dopamine releasing agent (NDRA) alternatively or additionally; also a non-competitive antagonist of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors[2]
Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) Edit
Amitriptyline (Elavil, Endep)
Amitriptylinoxide (Amioxid, Ambivalon, Equilibrin)
Clomipramine (Anafranil)
Desipramine (Norpramin, Pertofrane)
Dibenzepin (Noveril, Victoril)
Dimetacrine (Istonil)
Dosulepin (Prothiaden)
Doxepin (Adapin, Sinequan)
Imipramine (Tofranil)
Lofepramine (Lomont, Gamanil)
Melitracen (Dixeran, Melixeran, Trausabun)
Nitroxazepine (Sintamil)
Nortriptyline (Pamelor, Aventyl)
Noxiptiline (Agedal, Elronon, Nogedal)
Opipramol (Insidon)
Pipofezine (Azafen/Azaphen)
Protriptyline (Vivactil)
Trimipramine (Surmontil)
Tetracyclic antidepressants (TeCAs) Edit
Amoxapine (Asendin)
Maprotiline (Ludiomil)
Mianserin (Tolvon)
Mirtazapine (Remeron)
Setiptiline (Tecipul
Mianserin, mirtazapine, and setiptiline are also sometimes described as noradrenergic and specific serotonergic antidepressants (NaSSAs).
Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) Edit
Irreversible Edit
Non-selective Edit
Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
Phenelzine (Nardil)
Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
Selective for MAO-B Edit
Selegiline (Eldepryl, Zelapar, Emsam)
Reversible Edit
Non-selective Edit
Caroxazone (Surodil, Timostenil) was formerly used as an antidepressant, but has been discontinued.
Selective for MAO-A Edit
Metralindole (Inkazan)
Moclobemide (Aurorix, Manerix)
Pirlindole (Pirazidol)
Toloxatone (Humoryl)
These drugs are sometimes described as reversible inhibitors of MAO-A (RIMAs).
Eprobemide (Befol) and minaprine (Brantur, Cantor) were also formerly used as antidepressants
Which of those are so addictive that withdrawal symptoms are worse than the condition that they allegedly treat?
But I did get to calm her down somewhat from 600 miles away as she sobbed uncontrollably into the phone daily for three months.
The other experience resulted in my sons suicide.
A friend gave him his amitriptyline to take for my sons knee pain. His classmate was prescribed it due to a nasty head injury snowboarding accident.
After it happened I sought out what info I could find. My son had hurt his knee playing basketball. The kid gave him a large dose . We of course found this out after it was too late.In my research I found out that the chemical found most often in some ones system after death from suicide is alcohol. The next most often found in the blood system was amitriptyline.
I cannot imagine how I would react in a situation like like your son's. Although, I am familiar with a situation similar to your daughter's. In my case, it's like watching someone else's children playing with a Frisbee on the shoulder of a busy highway: There is nothing that I can do to stop it, but I cannot bring myself to look away.
In my case, it is like looking into the face of a zombie that used to be a happy little girl.
I have my suspicions about how this all came about. Preventing it would have required nothing short of a political revolution. These parasites are dug in deeper than an Alabama tick into the public school system. The Never Trump crew described in the article above are just one example of how shameless they are.
Some random psychologist's opinion (free from testing our President) should never be allowed in any proceedings.
Donald Trump is a Gemini Fire Dog (14 June 1946: Western + Chinese Zodiac), and that makes him a good guy, even if a bit flamboyant and temperamental.
If you want to believe that I won't stop you.
I've had an MMPI and Meyers-Briggs and they were both relatively accurate for the goal of helping me to know myself better and to realize that I'm not as "odd" as my parents would have led you to believe.
That's the real goal of psych evals: Helping you to build a foundation of "self".
Nothing that Washington is about to do to President Trump has any bearing on knowledge of who he is or what makes him "tick".
They lost control and they will do whatever it takes to regain control.
It should be a 3-ring circus to watch..
My Myers-Briggs results using different online versions are fairly consistent, although many of the choices are false dichotomies. Mostly, I assume the result and choose the option that more closely fits my preconceptions.
Above, I was half-joking about about the Zodiac thing. It is like the party game, in which one tells the attendees to look around the room and note all of the blue things, gives them a few minutes, then tells them to close their eyes and list the yellow things in the room. Because they were focused on blue things, they have a very hard time remembering any yellow things.
Knowing that one is a Gemini Tiger, Aquarius Dragon, or any of the other 142 possible East/West Zodiac combinations can lead to confirmation bias in one's self-assessment and in one's assessment of others, in spite of knowing that the bias's foundation is complete mystical rubbish.
For example, knowing that Trump is a Gemini Dog—assuming that one were allegedly compatible with Geminis and Dogs—if he lashes out, one might conclude that he is having a bad day, whereas, if he had been a Taurus Monkey, then his outburst would be just more proof that he is out of control and untrustworthy.
It is this that I am mocking with regard to the radical activists posing as medical experts cited in the article above.
I had remarked (before the election) that what we need in the WH is STRONG male
leadership. We got it.
Washington doesn't know what to do about a strong male outsider except to spin strength into "mental illness".
The media does a superb job of spinning this narrative.
I picture a ship going over a big waterfall...that's America.
I know; he's a rare guy in the reality TV, marketing, and NYC RE world who is a teetotaler. I do not believe it. I have no evidence. To Your_Name_Goes_Here's point, I'm no expert on drinking, beyond being from the hardest drinking state in the country. In my experience, some of the worst alcoholics claim to be teetotalers.
I'm just going by a gut feeling from his mannerisms. I suspect he's a hardcore user of alcohol, pills, street drugs, or something like that.
In my experience, people in my life who claim to be teetotalers really are.
That's a good point. If it were true, I would expect it to have come out now.
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Contrarian psychiatrist, Thomas Szasz, argued in "The Myth of Mental Illness" (1960, American Psychologist 15, 113-118) that, because we cannot observe minds directly, we cannot observe directly whether someone's mind is malfunctioning. We can observe only one's actions and infer the mental processes that cause them.
In cases of extreme autism, depression, or schizophrenia, it is easy to observe the effects of mental debilitation in the sufferers' inability to ensure their own survival and safety. However, Donald Trump does not exhibit any such symptoms. Quite the contrary, he appears to be preeminently able to feed, clothe, and house himself, along with countless relatives, employees, and vendors.
So, what do we observe? Textbook persuasion techniques, rhetorical feints and parries, exaggerations, blustering, grandstanding, vengeance, and a host of other negotiation tactics. Are these symptoms of mental illness? We'd have to consult with mental health professionals who did not have any philosophical, political, or religious axes to grind for a reasonably dispassionate diagnosis.
As it is, we have four psychiatrists, a clinical neuropsychologist, a neurologist, and an internist—who might or might not be fringe radicals of the psychological and psychiatric professions, which are dominated 9:1 by Democrats—who know Trump only from videos of his public statements. They have no idea what he is like in private, and they have absolutely no idea what his self-reported motives would be during a private counselling session. None of us does.
I agree wholeheartedly that it's wrong and dehumanizing to dismiss someone's ideas as an illness. I also agree with what your idea (if I understand right) that there is real mental illness and it involves cases where in ability to communicate, depression, or hallucinations make it impossible for someone to function. I further agree that even in those cases, it would be hard to trust them to evaluate a president, when there are obvious risks for political bias.
All that being said, my gut feeling is that President Trump has some sort of addiction or mental illness. I don't see techniques and tactics. I see a troubled person who spouts random nonsense that gets a reaction. I suspect he can't support himself, and he's living on an in an inheritance and being propped up (compensating for his disability or "enabling" him) by those around him. I certainly don't know that. I'm a non-expert judging from his public persona. So it's a wild guess. I don't think my guess should deligitimize him. I would urge people to look at his public persona and vote for anyone but him in the next election.
As for voting for Anyone But Trump, I am unfamiliar with him. What party is he running under? What are his tax, social, and foreign policies? Where is his website, so that we can learn more about him?