Paul Craig Roberts: Where Are the Indictments of Those Implicated in the Coup Attempt Against Trump?

Posted by minister-liberty 1 year ago to Politics
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"In the 1970s Irving Kristol declared Republicans to be the “stupid party.” How correct he has proven to be. Russiagate and now this latest coup attempt to overthrow the elected president of the United States are acts of sedition. There is no evidence whatsoever for the charges with which the Democrats and US media, parroted all over the world by other news agencies, are libeling Trump. Indeed, we have many known felonies committed by Obama regime officials who orchestrated the Steele Dossier and Russiagate. We have overpowering evidence that the Obama FBI covered up Hillary Clinton’s felonies. We have overpowering evidence that Obama CIA director John Brennan orchestrated, or set in motion with his false allegations, Russiagate.

That the Demorcrats and their handlers have an ongoing coup against the President of the United States is undeniable. High treason is written all over it. The few educated and aware Americans who still exist can see it clearly. We are watching to see if the insouciant American people succumb to propaganda that is terminating the United States. Something will still be here, but it won’t be America. What remains will be a Tower of Babel, the disunity of which makes it easily controllable by the Deep State. Or, if insouciant white Americans ever realize that they are on the genocide list, civil war could erupt between ethnic Americans and the nonwhite immigrants flooded into the country by the Democrats hoping to use their votes to keep governmental power in Democrat hands."

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  • Posted by Bill54 1 year ago
    It is the practice of the Washington establishment to bury their various corruptions somewhere in the D.C. swamp. So far they are doing so with continued success. But just maybe that swamp is reseeding if not being drained by the actions of President Trump. Yes, there are Republican bodies in the swamp who would save it instead of drying it up. Conservative paleontologists get ready!
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 1 year ago
    There should be a Conservative Party, no Republicans or Tea Party. At least all the philosophical ideas under one party banner. The problem with the Republican Party is that they are fractured. The lack of unity is causing the Republicans is causing problems for candidates who are running against well funded Dems in state elections. The point in fact here in Az. Martha McSally is having difficulty against a popular former astronaut Democrat Mark Kelly. What worries me that he and his wife run an anti-gun organization which could cause problems for law-abiding gun owner if he is elected to the US Senate.
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    • Posted by exceller 1 year ago
      You have a point there.

      However, even if the Dems seem more united under the party banner than the GOP, they are not truly united.

      There are fractions there as well, and very dangerous ones like the new radical left elected in 2018.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 1 year ago
      We have a Libertarian Party ... however, in my experience, they want to be Everything to Everybody and are too concerned about having the correct number of rainbow flags and pennants, inclusion -- a sort of Roll your Own Party appeal ... and they rarely get any candidate beyond a city council seat. I think that all of the factions are by design to maintain disunity.

      Tom Woods is a successful author and Libertarian. I get his email newsletter. He sticks with basic principles and is articulate, in particular with his spoken words. Here is one sample from his podcast:
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      • Posted by TheRealBill 1 year ago
        You have a very different LP than I've seen. The main problem with the LP in politics is their core philosophy of not wanting to give people other people's money. Note that I didn't say it is wrong, just that politically it is problematic in that in today's politics that is the path the victory.

        They also tend to not have enough internal control, which results in a seemingly endless supply of loons running as a "Libertarian" in local offices. They have no local political organization to speak of thus they tend to have a worse shot at any local elections.

        That doesn't even get into their frequent 'purity purges' where "you aren't Libertarian enough" fights happen.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 1 year ago
      Amen! You have the Freedom Caucus, which in my book are the "conservative" members of the Republican Party, then you have everyone else - a mash-up of centrists and establishment types along with a few actual Democrats-masquerading-as-Republicans (such as the former John McCain and Jeff Flake).

      Conversely, the Democratic Party has expelled most of their more centrist members (formerly known as Blue Dog Democrats) and now just compete to see who is the farthest Left.
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      • Posted by 1 year ago
        It's interesting that when Flake was a rep he was one of the best defenders of constitutional limits on government. It appears that the deep state found his weakness and blackmailed him into submission to the looters.
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  • Posted by CrustyOldGeezer 1 year ago
    How about the People in every district begin researching and documenting EVERY Violation of oath of Office by their representative and senator, the supplying that information to the local media, DA, and Law Enforcement AND their political opponents in next years election?

    Make sure the FACT that every violation is a Felony, they get paid $174,000 or more, walk the streets freely and without fear of ACCOUNTABILITY.
    Ordinary Citizens would be in Prison for decades for lesser crimes.
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    • Posted by starznbarz 1 year ago
      Local media is owned by the conglomerates, they will not report with context. We have a couple options, document the on air opinion that is offered as fact, my local Fox affiliate ran a crawl at the bottom of a two hour newscast when the "racist tweet" hoax was trotted out a couple months ago, the crawl stated " ...president Trumps racist tweets..." not "alleged", or any other disclaimer, so I took a photo of it, it will be included in the package of formal complaints filed with the FCC - TV stations must still do licensing renewals and public comment MUST be included in the process. Document and file each instance separately. While the local news is live on air, tweet directly to the "reporter" that is swerving from truth and context, they may ignore it, but everyone else on the feed will see it, it may spur them to act as well. National media is on life support, find out what other companies they own that are funding the attack on America, post on those other entities social media pages and stop spending money in all the companies they own, if they cannot pay the electric bill the life support machine will stop working. Apply the same tactics to your elected officials, post factual issues on their pages and request an on topic response, again, they will ignore you, but others will see it. Post on your reps & sens pages every day with a demand for them to support congressional term limits, or publicly refuse to do so.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 year ago
    ..a larger version of the observation I made after Trump was elected: The left realizes they are at war with the right. The right doesn't realize it. That, in a nutshell explains all this.

    The Republicans fail to see they are in a knock-down, drag out fist fight. How many rules are there in such a fight? Let me help with that...none.
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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year ago
      Exceller, what is going on in D.C. may be what is going on in Texas. I just learned our new Speaker of the House, Dennis Bonnen is a "Democrat in hiding". He claims to be a Republican and he is appointing all Democrats as committee chairs.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 year ago
    Welcome to The Gulch, you minister of liberty you.
    Anyone who can identify the on-going ever-growing rancid stench of high treason is welcome here.
    My memory has just been jogged by something me dino heard Rush Limbaugh say about RINOs without calling them that just before Trump won the election. He said there are Republicans in Congress who would "vote for for Hillary to protect their fiefdoms."
    That being true, I'd be replacing "stupid" with such words as "greedy" and "power hungry and "malevolent hypocrisy."
    But I'm just an old retired dude with time on his hands and a PC.
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  • Posted by PeterSmith 1 year ago
    These are gibberish conspiracy theories that are unworthy of discussion on what is meant to be an Objectivist forum.
    There is no "coup" attempt against the President.
    His own staff blew the whistle on him and it'll be his own party that would vote to have him impeached if the process gets that far, which I doubt.
    Democrats would hate to have to impeach Trump - one of their best presidents.
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  • Posted by GaryL 1 year ago
    I doubt we will see any indictments. Crooks cross party lines but when one gets caught red handed he/she knows who the other crooks are and none will take the rap alone. They will sing like song birds and drag the entire corrupt swamp down with them. The deals are already in the mix, you shut up and we will spank you with feathers.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 1 year ago
    “Bennett could see it clearly now. To misunderstand the nature of evil is to risk being blindsided by it. For evil, unchecked, is the prelude to genocide.
    It was an unholy war, and it was winner-take-all. There could be no truce, no cease-fire, no hudna, as it was known in Arabic. You were either on the offense, or you were losing.
    The thoughts rushing through Bennett were alien to everything he’d been taught to believe. They smacked of the very intolerance and judgmentalism he'd been so relentlessly warned against back at Georgetown and Harvard. But what was 'tolerance' in the face of terror? Wasn't it surrender? Wasn't it suicide?” – “The Last Days”, by Joel C. Rosenberg
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  • Posted by $ splumb 1 year ago
    What we're dealing with here is naked, smirking evil. Ours is a young country, so we have no experience with the feudalism or totalitarianism that litters the history of the rest of the world.
    But older countries know it well.
    I was reading a book by Joel Rosenberg, and found this superb quote:

    “The problem with you Americans is that you don't believe in evil. A man like Saddam Hussein, for example. Saddam tells the world for years that he has a territorial claim on Kuwait. Builds up his armed forces. Develops weapons of mass destruction. Moves troops to the border. Signals everyone he's going in. But all the boys and girls at the CIA and DIA say Saddam won't do it. Just saber-rattling. Just flexing his muscles. Couldn't possibly invade. Why would he? It would make no sense. It would be irrational. No arab nation has ever invaded another arab nation. Why start now? Saddam was painting us a road map, and you simply didn't believe he'd start the car and take the trip. Saddam Hussein was not a lunatic and in that case, he wasn't a liar. He was rational and calculating and evil. So he told the world what he was going to do – commit an act of evil, not an act of madness – and then he did it. It took a bunch of highly paid analysts with Harvard degrees to completely miss the simplicity of the moment.”
    “I believe the terrorist is both capable and prone to acts of unspeakable evil, and you don't. I'm right, and you're wrong. It's not because I know more than your government. I don't. I know less. But I believe that evil forces make evil people do evil things. That's how I anticipate what can and will happen next in life. That's how I got to be the head of the Mossad, young man. And why I'm good at it. It's going to be one hell of an August, and my country is going to suffer very badly because your country doesn't believe in evil, and mine was born out of the ashes of the Holocaust” – Dr. Eliezer Mordechai, “The Last Jihad”, by Joel C. Rosenberg
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 1 year ago
    Don't forget that Establishment Republicans are scarcely any fonder of Trump than Democrats are. And that's a good thing. Not that long ago we had a Republican President who was supported by a Republican majority in both houses which passed pretty much everything he asked for. How'd that work out for us?
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    • Posted by exceller 1 year ago
      A good thing? Why is it a good thing.

      Are you a Democrat? Or a committed never-Trumper?

      If Trump had both houses he would be able to implement his policies that are in the country's interest, which of course would not please you.

      The fact that Bush abused his power is not a reason that all presidents will fall into that category. Generalization is a deadly sin.
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      • Posted by Rex_Little 1 year ago
        I am neither. Never voted for a Democrat in my life, and I was happy Trump won--precisely because I figured he and the Establishment would keep each other busy butting heads, rather than cooking up new ways to expand government and erode our liberties.

        When was the last time the combination of an activist President and a compliant Congress worked out well for us? Not in my 70 years.
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        • Posted by exceller 1 year ago
          You have a point, however the unfortunate turn of events does not mean it applies to every president.

          Trump won in 2016, but lost the House in 2018..

          Which was due to the traitorous activities of some on the GOP side.

          Conventional wisdom says it is a good thing but reality is quite different.

          The House in Dem hands is anything but good for the country. They completely immobilized government due to their blind hatred of the president.

          And I fear it is going to be even worse till next election.

          After 2020, when I trust Trump will be reelected, the left has another 4 years in their arsenal trying tp remove him. They have a bottomless supply of resources for that.
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  • Posted by exceller 1 year ago
    “The indictments of felonious Democrats are absent because Republicans are stupid. Republican advisers are telling Trump that if his Attorney General indicts the Democrats who actually committed real crimes in their effort to overthrow Trump, the indicted will, to save their own situation, testify against Obama and Hillary who, if not the organizers of the sedition against Trump, at least are officials who gave approval and encouragement to the plot. That makes it a conspiracy for which Obama and Hillary, aside from other crimes, can be indicted. It would be, Republicans advise Trump, a nation-destroying precedent for a former president to be indicted. The Republicans advising Trump are apparently so oblivious that they don’t realize that Trump himself, an American president, is on the road to indictment regardless of the evidence. Do the Republicans prefer to lose a president on the basis of the total absence of evidence rather than to indict a president who is clearly guilty? Such a party as the Republican Party is too stupid to survive.”

    “In other words, he is being advised: “Let them get you.” So much for Trump’s advisors. So much for Trump appointing such stupid advisors.”
    “This misplaced and idiotic superpatriotism immobilizes the stupid party and leaves the initiative with the determined party, a party that ignores all facts and whose media shills drown out any facts that manage to get expressed.”

    I fully agree. The Dems know this very well and play upon it. Lips Waters just announced that Republicans not backing impeachment are not patriots.

    The GOP will swallow it hook, line and sinker.
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