The Specter of Deep Fakes?

Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 2 months ago to Technology
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I posted a warning about Deep Fakes a while back...they are getting better by the day.

ALERT!...new addition: Is this a Deep Fake? or Deep Throat???

Watch this! Ctrl Shift Face...entertaining but when you think about it...scary

You could one day be the "Ctrl" face that gets shifted.
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    A simple & direct way to thwart deep fakes is to incorporate a digital watermark into the original and actual footage.
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    • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
      Good idea but what about the trillions of memes, photos and videos already out there?
      That is where all that was needed for the posted video was gotten...everything that was already out there.

      Just a question.
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      • Posted by CTYankee44 1 month, 4 weeks ago
        That come down to a question of believability. Back in the 90s Scientific American magazine published a 'photo' of Marilyn Monroe hanging on the shoulder of Abraham Lincoln. It was a perfect fake. But it was also not believable.

        At some point in the not too distant future, cameras will need to incorporate dual-key watermarks into the images to prevent future abuses. Will older images continue to emerge? Yes. But eventually the fact that we age will be sufficient to reintroduce the aspect of deniability.

        The thing that struck me most viscerally in he above video clip was the 'Uncanny Valley' which it almost crossed, but just managed to fall short of.

        There were a few moments when I kept asking myself if that dude is a Tom Cruise look-alike. But the majority of the time the image emitted the revulsion that the uncanny valley represents.
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        • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
          Great observation...do you think someone will figure out how to avoid the valley all together?
          In a Deep Political Fake...there would be no need for that, I think, cause the whole thing will be generated from scratch...or is that just no possible?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    Think about this one: Joe Biden says all of those gaffes that you see him spouting on TV are faked.Given this technology gets to be better known, how do you hold any politician responsible, as they can deny any thing they said that was stupid was faked? They could also use the technology to revise mistakes in their speeches. It will certainly create further confusion and doubt.
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    • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
      Beam it live stream... which means, one of us (not literally us.) has to be present at one of his freak out events...pity the poor soul that would suffer.
      Maybe turn the event into a "Laugh-in"?
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  • Posted by preimert1 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    I wonder if some technical genius out there could come up with some kind of litmus test or tell-tail app that could be ap[lied to a clip to detect if a clip has been altered. Otherwise the adage "seeing is believing" is rendered bullshit. Fake fake news?
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    • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
      I am sure someone will. However, we can tell if it's fake...just takes some time but the prob. is, the deep fakes will be released last min. and it will probable be too late by the time we find out.

      That would be a shock to have to Re-Vote for a Presidential election cause someone screwed the pooch.
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  • Posted by rainman0720 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    How long before someone does this with Trump shaking hands with Hitler, with the caption "See? We were right; no wonder they think alike!".

    Or maybe we could interpose Slick Willy's face on someone getting out of a jet with a recently-deceased pedophile...wait, that real footage maybe already exists and we wouldn't have to fake it...
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  • Posted by  $  Solver 2 months ago
    With all the unaccountable interconnected A.I. machines, interfaces, imagers, programs, and algorithms operating today, I hope it doesn’t collectively compute that all these privileged humans are toxic.
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    • Posted by  $  2 months ago
      I think, for now, we must scrutinize the news, the video "Proofs" and what a politician or official said or did.
      That is how the left will win...no need for the voting dead or voting twice...they now have the "Majic" of Alastar Crowley on their side.
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  • Posted by  $  2 months ago
    "I have wondered for a while when we might get to the point where digital Hollywood tech might replace live actors in films—or even be used to being back long dead ones. I know I’d be up for some new John Wayne movies. But this is potentially creepy and should make everyone be on their guard over videos of political figures, where I suspect lots of fakes are in our future, and will enter the news cycle faster than they can be refuted."

    Think about it, scaling failed campaigns in a single bound, by getting the dead to vote for you or google's arrangement of the deep state data so you see That first is absolutely antiquated by comparison to a deep fake inwhich a candidate is exposed doing something he/she never did...and by the time you find out...it's way too late to change your vote, to change history to it's rightful place.
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month, 4 weeks ago
      A couple of the latest Star Wars movies has used digital tech to resurrect a deceased Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia and Peter Cushing, who played the first Death Star Commander, ( and appeared in countless Brit Hammer horror flicks during the 60s and the 70s) in Rogue One, the last Star Wars anything me with my tinnitus last
      saw the first time in a theater.
      On the big screen me dino could tell Peter Cushing, who dirt napped 1994, was a digital creation in 2016's Rogue One, but on a smaller screen not so much. Note that along with the theatrical dramatic effect of his digital image of at first looking the other way when first shown~~
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uKtU...
      Me dino reckons it won't take long for digital special effects technicians to get copies of living and dead people down to perfection.
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      • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
        That is where the Tech came from...you had to know that someone would use it for evil. I am sure googie is all up for this.
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        • Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month, 4 weeks ago
          Me dino doth pondered thine reply, went hither yon to go figure me own
          response and,after great deliberation, me dino tarried back sayeth the
          following unto you and what I sayeth be a yep. Despite other variables,
          the hard part was choosing between that or 10-4 good buddy.
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          • Posted by  $  1 month, 4 weeks ago
            Laughing...a prophet, you are...
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            • Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month, 4 weeks ago
              And lo it came to pass, that Divine Dino the Prophet pointed into infinity and sayeth unto those who'd listen, "Verily, verily, me dino sayeth unto you, study this well."
              At the end of the day, the lesson be-ith that you had better. Yes, at the end of the day.
              Expect a quiz,
              Nononono! Not necessarily at the end of the day.
              "At the end of the day" is an overused expression me dino has heard talking heads on Fox News run into the ground.
              To say "At the end of the day bla bla bla etc." is to say, "So in the summation of all things bla bla bla etc."
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              But the provided link is a hint~~
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              At the end of the day, me Divine dino the Prophet would not be caught dead in one of those things.
              More of a Honda man.
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