We should've picked Hillary, but Trump is the best

Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 years, 10 months ago to Philosophy
120 comments | Share | Best of... | Flag

A title inspired by the NYT to get attention. Just looking for a conclusive survey in this well-informed forum.

1. Who was the best candidate we could have actually gotten elected in 2016 (easter bunny is out) to optimize general freedom

2.Who was the the best presidential candidate in 2016 we could've gotten elected from an Objectivist perspective.

3. What else could (should) we be doing that would practically improve our freedom in our lifetimes?

Just preparing for the next election and getting the best input.

"Yes, but..." is a waste of everyone's time.


All Comments


Previous comments...   You are currently on page 3.
  • Posted by $ 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For those who would rather not be nationalistic, the world is a little like socialism now on whole, with the US being the wealthy golden goose. We have been covering everything for so long it is ridiculous.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    His immigration policy is not irrational. We should pick potential immigrants who ADD to our country

    Tariffs are bad and useless and stupid. They will make him lose in 2020

    Foreign policy is good. Other countries should respect us
    Reply | Permalink  
  • -3
    Posted by tdechaine 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump is a danger in his own right; the choice is not good. His brand of conservatism is not healthy; e.g. trade war, irrational immigration policies, dangerous dealings with foreign powers, etc.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that as leftists get more violent in general, the looney bin dudes will do more shootings. When I go to fast food places, I am becoming much more aware of who is coming in and from where. I try to be very aware of crowds anywhere I go.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They did you a favor by identifying themselves and sparing you from finding out they are NOT true feiends.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i think the executive actions are more hidden from view. Frankly, I dont know all he has done in those areas. All I can go by is the intense HATRED of the left, which means to me Trump had been against them
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think Trump was using the tariffs to get the chinese to be more reasonable on trade. I think HE thought they woul buckle under rather quickly, he would look good, and there would be no harm to our economy.

    BUT, the chinese didnt buckle and in my view they wont, One Belt, One Road and China 2025 are way more important to them than anything else.

    What Trump should have done in my view is to come out in the beginning NOT with tariffs, but with Patriotic slant on trade. Given China isnt fair with us, why should we trade with them at all. I notice that he has "ordered" companies here to find alternate supply chains (this came out today 8/23). I think he should have done this right off instead of the tariffs, particularly in view of the reaction of the chinese to our tariffs.

    f he drops the tariffs now and just sticks to "dont trade with china until they treat us better", I think people will get behind him. I certainly will.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont see why a reasonable pereson wouldl be a democrat in the frist place, particularly in this very leftist environment. If Trump loses in 2020 to any of the democrats, it will be a terrible loss for the country and a big win for the socialist collectivists. The first think any one of the democrats would go is reverse any of Trump's executive orders, and if they have a supermajority in the senate and a majority in the house, they will open the borders, do medicaid for everyone, raise taxes a lot, and many more collectivist things.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by GaryL 5 years, 10 months ago
    Trump was elected because we wanted a President who would put America first! There was no other candidate who had not already sold his soul to the devil and other global interests. Trump is anything but "Intellectually Compromised". Everything he says or tweets is well thought out and designed to have heads exploding and it is working perfectly. No other candidate I have seen in my entire 67 years has ever had the guts to take on not just our own political disasters but also those of many other countries. He has both of our neighbors to the north and south on the balls of their ass. He has China, Russia, Germany, The EU and UK and almost all of Asia and the middle East on theirs too. Basically, they all need the USA more than the USA needs any of them and he is making that crystal clear. Sure there will be some pain and suffering by us but this is small when compared to the rest of this nasty world. Number one is always the target all the others want to shoot at and destroy but Trump will take the incoming shots and fire right back at them all. In all of this there is only one thing missing from his arsenal and that is the support from all of us here in the USA. Every politician in either party has some sort of ulterior motive as to why they can't hop on the Trump Train and that motive is always SELF where it should be what is best for all of us!
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by tdechaine 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, all are not; and Rep.s had better recognize that.
    If a moderate candidate gains momentum, Trump could easily lose. Consider Tim Ryan.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Technocracy 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agencies also fail to report these problems up for various reasons. The big failing prior to Parkland. That kid had been trouble for years and reported multiple times. However they had a "program" to keep juveniles from getting police records, warranted or not.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe. I am thinking the tariff thing is really damaging China, with whom, we are at war...We just don't know it.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed. I am surprised more haven't commented on those actions, started right in the beginning.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But trump is intellectually inconsistent !! The tariff thing with China will keep him from winning in 2020
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What people fail to recognize is that the HIPAA laws, designed to protect your private medical information, result in mental illness being masked from the NICS searches. Someone can be crazy as a bedbug, taking lots of psychoactive meds, and show up "clean" in a NICS check. That error needs to be corrected.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The more hatred the left shows towards trump, the more he is standing in their way !
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo