Trump may not be the 'Best', but he's way ahead of whatever is in 2nd place!

Opens some conversations, even with lefty-oriented.

That is an awesome shirt.

Rand is also too religious for me, but he is pretty damn good in general.

16th Amendment is THE PROBLEM. So poorly worded.

That would be a hilarious platform to run on!

"Why do you want to pay more?"

Well Rand is only Ron lite, but he is better than the rest of the con-gress critters.
Rand still compromises too often for me.
Eliminate the income tax completely. It is counter-productive by its very nature and it only serves the socialist state.

The statists can't stand the competition from people who can take care of themselves. They only compete with other looters and they must have weak people who are dependent to enslave.

Now that is true!

I have a shirt "Teach a man to fish and he eats for life. Give a man another man's fish and he votes for you".

Good thing I am a berserker!

Libertarians have a hard time competing in the arena of promising free stuff.

I think it's partially in the nature of the people who are attracted to libertarian ideas, and partially in the purposeful design of the perverted political system. Most attracted to libertarian ideology just want to be left alone to live their lives and don't develop the personal skills required to be a candidate. The person who develops the skills and wants to be a candidate always has a personal agenda that ignores the ideals of individual liberty when it suits their purposes- that is, compromise of principles. Also, imo, no one is immune to being seduced by power. It requires compromised principles; those who refuse to compromise principles don't get power and don't rise to prominence (thanks to the biased, manipulated media) in the perverted political system. The media is manipulated to serve the purposes of the deep state and the deep state abhors people of principle.
The system is corrupt to its roots; I don't think it can be reformed peacefully.

Totally agree, but he wasn't on the ballot.

Rand Paul
Rand Paul
Cut taxes by 80%

I just don't understand why the Libertarian party can't put a solid candidate out there.

The message is so simple. The arguments so clear. How can it be difficult to find someone articulate?

That was my final reasoning on election day 2016. I knew Trump had the win in my state. I was pretty certain Trump had the win overall, too. The polls were purposely misleading based on my analysis. Johnson was disappointing. Like Perot, his choice of a running mate was terrible, but for opposite reasons.

I did make that distinction, to avoid people just doing a "write in" and noting why they were the best. That is not a tough question.

There is an augment to be made for voting outside the two parties to be sure. Gary Johnson was doing quite a bit better than Libertarians in the past, and he would've done better if he has any real message beyond legalizing marijuana... and camera presence.

However, my view is that voting for such a candidate is reasonable, only if the better of the two bad ones that can win, will win. Then the massage is delivered, safely.

From the wording of the questions("we could have actually gotten elected in 2016"), it appears you are rejecting all other candidates but Trump and Hitlery.
Given that restriction, I vote "anyone but Hitlery."
Without that restriction I'd still have voted for neither of them as I did in 2016.
I will not decide on my 2020 vote until election day, but it won't be for the Dem candidate.

Nothing better to do...

Just trying to get consensus. We have a lot of criticism of Trump here, myself included.

Not sure were you are going with these questions.

We all know that there was only one choice from a sane point of view and that was Trump.

Nobody would have been able to deal with the disastrous changes Obama loaded on the country.

Moore said that Trump was a street fighter and at this point in history that is the only qualification that fits the need of the country.