Also, when guys s are outlawed I will be a criminal.

Hmm, I seem to remember Cain killed Abel with a rock...Oh wait, you can't Reason with the Unreasonable, so all we can do is Resist their stupidity.

I used to have a couple 20 round magazines for one of my guns before NY made them illegal. I sent them to a buddy down south where they are still perfectly legal to own and use. Lord help us if we ever have another North Vs South Civil war because the NE states will be severely out gunned.

Drugs are illegal.....people get all sorts of exotic drugs! There is no reason to think that once firearms become illegal they wont still be able to get them.

"No one needs ...." While I understand your good intent, this sentence signals a huge problem to me. It's the very first thing I jump on when liberals and demoncrats drag out their old, tired arguments....And I see you recognize the slippery slope.

There really is no benefit in taking away MY 100-round clip (if I had one) when Joe around the corner is never going to declare or give up his, and he's the one with anger issues. Because if the desire to wreak harm and damage isn't there, no number of 100-round clips is going to put it there. And for the people who do have that desire, they'll figure a way with or without the 100-round clips.

But when one person starts deciding what another person "needs," problems ensue.

I have an Idea.....prohibit Democrats from owning firearms....all these shooters seem to be Democrats or some sort of socialist. They are also the ones that used to own all the slaves anyway......They can turn in their guns and we can sell them off to pay the slave reparations they owe to African Americans.

Me an old dino has seen this bumper sticker as far back as the Sixties~~
WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY CRIMINALS WILL OWN GUNS.

Background checks have been found to be reliably unreliable - precisely because of the patchwork reporting which goes into the national database. Many states actually prohibit their state agencies from complying with the reporting requirements. And the real problem is that the system doesn't maintain the most telltale sign: mental problems. And all that started when the State began shutting down privately run mental institutions. If you want to blame violence on someone, look no further than the government!

Love that one!

Let us go back a ways. In HS in 1968 we had no gun free zones and all the student that hunted had there gun in an EZ rider gun rack in their pickups so they could hunt after school. We also had no school shootings! Sure, we did have fist fights and we got suspended but none of us killed the others. We hear all about what they plan to do about all the guns and absolutely nothing about the shooters and the root causes. My deer rifle was and still is a .308 Semi Auto that is more powerful and much more accurate than any AR style weapon and capable of firing as many rounds as I could feed it in rapid fashion. Having been a gun owner all of my life and I have owned many I can honestly say not a single gun in my posession has ever harmed another human being yet I am the one who they want to do deep background checks on and restrict from various types of weapons and magazine capacities while the bad guys run free to have whatever illegal weaponry they can buy of steal.

Finding the causes that compel these mentally ill individuals to act out is the only solution and a very hard one. Some seek fame from the media and want to go out in suicide by cop after taking as many lives as possible. Others live in some fantasy world believing they are John Wick or some Army commando doing the work of the military. Still others are just angry and hateful and instead of just ending their own life they want another to end it for them while they go on their death wish killing spree. No one has all the answers so instead they come up with feel good reactions that have no proven results. Banning ARs and limiting magazine capacities does nothing. Carry more 10 round clips so your illegal killing is done legally. Ignorance is bliss and our elected leaders sure do have enough ignorance and are completely unwilling to face reality but Vote for me!

Pencils do not misspell words, people do.

That’s why micro-aggressions were invented. An SJW could claim they were offended and kept shooting in self defense. (This should stay sarcasm.)

It is already against the law to shoot people as an aggressor. One more law will not deter those with Evil intent, it will just mean law abiding folks will lose rights because of a madman’s actions.

I think the monitoring of people who make death lists and rape lists deserve to be reported. It should be obvious that they would not pass a background check. Mental health issues plague this country , unfortunately to diagnose these problems can be too subjective. Seems to me if more trained to conceal and carry were at these open large events the criminally insane might be taken down quicker resulting in fewer victims.

Agree and disagree MM. I will leave your background comment alone because that system is only as good as the info it receives from the numerous other reporting agencies. Magazine capacities and who needs high capacities all depend upon what the threat to you, your family and safety are facing. If the bad guy can have 200 + rounds in an illegal magazine I just might need a few more rounds than the ten I am allowed here in NY. As far as Black Talon bullets are concerned, I was an LEO and still have a bunch of those. The only difference between them and the bullets that replaced them is they are no longer black and no longer called Black Talons. Ballistically speaking the new ones do the same damage and pack the same punch. There are actually many other rounds of ammunition that are substantially more deadly and still perfectly legal but they are not Black or in today's environment "Racist". I always find it much better for those who have limited knowledge regarding guns and ammo to refrain from commenting about them.

I, like you, have owned weapons since way before background checks were required. I know the approaches being talked about today are bandaids and will only help in a few instances/ My view is that if even one death is preventd by an increased background check it is worth it.
Also like you, I don't have a solution to the problem. I can think of spot fixes but no comprehensive fix. The only think I'm sure of is that leaving it upto congress will not produce a solution that will work. Not even the total ban on weapons will work. Law abiding sictizens won't have them and criminals will since by definition they live outside the law and will break it when it suits them.
The only think I truly agree with in the BS being bandied abiut is a lime on magazine capacity. No one needs a 100 round clip.I'm not even sure that an 11 or 12 round clip is needed. for police and miltary OK not civilians. Yes I know that is the slippery slop but people didn't need Black talon rounds either and they were banned except for police. but the ban was instituted by local and state jurisdictions not the all see and knowing U.S. Government.

Criminals don't follow the laws and this is proven time again. No new law or regulation will even come close to fixing evil but they sure could make protecting ones-self and family a great deal more difficult. Mental illness can present itself at any time and evil can lurk in ones heart forever until it shows up and breaks out. The lawmakers know this to be true so all they are doing is CONTROL!

I have owned guns since long before background checks and bought a couple after they began doing them. I don't disagree with doing the checks but even they have severe limitations and will not serve the intended end purpose of keeping guns out of evil hands. They are a bandaid over a serious wound. Banning certain types of guns are little more than more bandaids. I would ask any who come up with their proposals to prove what such restrictions will accomplish and that answer is always "Little to nothing". Evil exists and will always find a way. Our rights of self protection shall not be infringed and this has been our rule of law since the very beginning and not just the beginning of the USA.

Bad guys don't register their weapons or buy them legally in most cases. You only find out about lunatics legally owning weapons when they act out, and I'm sure the majority do not. The flare-ups are a consequence of freedom and a degree of free will. They cannot be prevented without decimating liberty for everyone.
I do suspect that the lefts rhetoric of fire and troubled times from every angle is exactly what's influencing these happenings and it's only going to get worse as america's brown shirts become more rabid.

As I have said in other posts, if a terrorist is bent on killing people he/she will use anything as a weapon. Consider the Bastille Day attack in France. Consider the 9/11 attacks here. the suicide bombers all around the world.
The terrorists aim to to kill as many as possible as violently as possible. They want to change the mindset of the population they are attacking not just kill.
The kneejerk reaction of banning weapons plays into their hands by lessening the capability of the population to defend themselves and others if the need arises. I recall the incident in California about 15 to 20 years ago wh4n bank robbers were so armored in body armor and with heavy weapons that the police cound not stop them. Citizens gave them their weapons to use that had more punch. One gun shold even gave out heavy caliber weapons and ammo to the police.
At the rate gun control fanatics are going, slingshots will be outlawed.
What is needed is people control. cross linking of mental health records and background check databases could be used but that is loaded with potential for abuse.psycological testing prior to have a license to buy could be used. Again fraught with potential abuses and unintended consequences.
There has to be a way to limit the people not the weapons.