Grow Up, America!

Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 8 months ago to Politics
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This is an excerpt, the full article can be accessed on the link above.

Bush not only initiated two trillion-dollar wars, he cut taxes and expanded domestic spending; a prescription drug benefit was the cherry on his welfare-state sundae. Obama, more leery of the Middle East fantasy but more enamored of government programs and deficit finance, called Bush’s profligacy and raised him a few trillion. Back when Roosevelt was cranking up the welfare state, his advisers told him the pay-as-you-go structure of the Social Security program would eventually bankrupt it. FDR was insouciant; that outcome was several generations down the road. The time horizon has shrunk; the fiscal wolves are at the door. You get the feeling that Obama just wants to play golf and avoid calamity until the day after he leaves office. He’s the kid who hasn’t read his assignment and hopes the bell will ring before the teacher calls on him.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 8 months ago
    We need a shot of B12... to wake up fresh, sober up and smell the coffee. Otherwise the morgue it will be. The community agitator has not grown up and will not act responsibly. For too long adults have not been in charge.
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    • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 8 months ago
      You've both hit the nail on the head. More than a few times in the last 15 years, I thought that the president was having a temper tantrum usually reserved for two-year olds.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 8 months ago
        The president definitely has a thin skin. He is petulant and holds grudges.
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        • Posted by eddieh 9 years, 8 months ago
          Thin skin and holds grudges,?
          boy lets hope Hillary Isn't elected.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 8 months ago
            That's why I couldn't vote for McLame either.
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            • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 8 months ago
              I voted for McCain because I had no choice...then I went home a scrubbed myself down with bleach and steel wool.

              I've met him a few times. He is all that is evil in a politician. I detest that man.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
                McCain physically reminds me of my father. I didn't follow him closely enough to know if he has a record of ruthless politics. I like how he pointed out the economic crisis hardly affected most of the population.

                I supported Obama from the primaries, but I remember liking that element of McCain putting the crisis in perspective. President Obama was supposed to be about "hope", but I did not like the amount of *fear* we got once he was elected. He warned the country that the economic crisis would be very scary, but I wonder the gov't had done very little and let companies fail if things would have been just fine, except for people who made risky decisions and those around them. I wanted more hope and optimism.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 8 months ago
    "Bush not only initiated two trillion-dollar wars"

    HE DID NO SUCH THING.

    There was only ONE war, with THREE theaters:
    Afghanistan
    Iraq
    United States

    We didn't call WWII "two wars", even though it was fought in 2 theaters (Europe and Pacific).


    I'm in no way interested in defending Bush, but let's keep the facts straight.

    It'd be easier to tell that it was a multi-theater war if instead of searching grandma on planes, we banned Arab moslems from flying into the U.S.
    It'd be easier to tell that it was multi-theater war if we had conquered the territories we'd invaded, appointed American governors-general, and used them as staging ground for expansion of the war, as we did in WWII.

    That Bush botched the war effort doesn't change the fact that invading the middle east was pretty much mandatory, and still is.

    And, Bush didn't "initiate" anything; the jihadis initiated this war, long before Bush was ever in office.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 9 years, 8 months ago
    It's a good article, SLL,.
    I don't think Vietnam was shoved down the memory hole, however. I think the powers that be stood back in awe that the financing mechanism apparently "worked", and it emboldened them to try it the next time they got into a scrape, and then it simply became standard operating procedure.

    I have some sympathy for Hiraghm's challenge to you that Bush did not really initiate two wars. I think the facts show Al Qaeda was attacking us through the 90s (I won't list all the attacks here, but they are numerous). The Sept 11 attacks provoked us into a more traditional war response. I do think Iraq developed into a second theatre of the same war too, but that was a war of our making. I think we could have invaded any other middle eastern country and the result would have been the same: Al Qaeda would have said "America is on Islam lands" and they would have engaged us there. If we had stayed out of Iraq, we could have kept the focus in Afghanistan and I do think we strategically blundered here because I think some of the powers that be did not actually have the goal of eliminating Bin Laden, but instead figured they could take advantage of our mobilization in the area to achieve some other goals, under the dubious CLAIM they were Al Qaeda related.
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