The culture, youtube, and your 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 9 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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The band I'm in played a volunteer gig at the end of May. For several reasons I thought the performance was bad to really bad. The gig was videotaped on a small handheld camera so the audio isn't good either. The other evening after practice I overheard the drummer saying he wanted to put the video on youtube and he just needed to make sure he spelled all the names of the band members correctly. He never asked permission from anyone. I was the only one who said no. Beyond the fact that in my opinion if you are going to put your band on youtube it had better be really good. He never asked my permission to be placed on youtube. He was surprised and mad that I said no. He ranted that he would have to make copies for all his friends and family. I still said no.

If you were in the same situation what would be your response? To borrow from dbhalling; what would John Galt have done?


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  • Posted by LionelHutz 9 years, 8 months ago
    This discussion needs to be had with your ENTIRE BAND, not just this individual. If it was me, I'd be saying "If we're going to put a video on Youtube, we all should know about it BEFORE we start filming a gig, not after. Also, we should all get to review it to make sure we're comfortable presenting ourselves to the world with that work - it has to represent ourselves well." I don't think he's out of line to show his family and friends the video, though.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 8 months ago
    permission before filming. no filming without permission. that is standard in your industry. You could counter with a positive plan. something like, let's nail this or that song and film it with a tripod or with someone who at least is a good amateur videographer...edit it and then we'll see.
    If you are in a band, you kinda have a public exposure and so to say to everyone else, you would never agree to a youtube video- well your reasoning would need to be laid out. I'd like to watch a video of a good song from one of your gigs. heck I'd watch a bad one-but we'd laugh together-privately, that is. ;)
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      Good points. I think that's a great idea to just do individual songs if that's what everyone agrees to.

      Full disclosure I knew they would be filming part of it, but I thought it was for the clients, not youtube. This gig was a big party for the clients, who are mentally and physically handicapped. Many of them are in the video also, not just the band. I'm sure none of them or their families were consulted about being put on youtube either.
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      • Posted by khalling 9 years, 8 months ago
        yea, I think there might be some legal concerns with that. what if someone didn't want their family member filmed? that's more tricky-
        I'd still like to see you playing.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years, 8 months ago
    Does he know how you feel about the quality of the video? Is that your only complaint? Did he offer to upload to private account where a limited group of friends and family would have access? Is he willing to wait till there is a better gig?
    Are you willing to compromise? If you aren’t, then you do the right thing for yourself.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      Would Hammond have sold cars with bent fenders? Would Rearden have sold steel that would shatter? No. They would not, and I am unwilling to compromise on this.

      He does know how I feel (oh wo wo wo) and think about it and he disagrees. He did say he would password protect it for his friends and family. I still believe if it isn't your best effort then it shouldn't be sent out. I knew the gig would be a wreck and I would not have gone except that I had made an agreement to be there. I quit the band after this gig, but was assured that changes would be made. I think those changes are not going to be honored, so I will be quitting again. I would rather be a guitar hero in my own living room.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 8 months ago
    Legally, i don't know, but I think that you are right to refuse if you signed no contract giving your permission. If the band is still together I would try to do a good recording instead.
    I agree that you do not want anything less than a good recording released for public view.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 8 months ago
    You should have told him to put it on his facebook page or on giggle+ available only to his family circle.

    Not sure what I would have done; I don't want my face out there, anymore. I might have said he could put it on Youtube if he blurred my face and distorted my voice. More likely I'd have just objected.

    Then again, if it was in a public place... too bad, he can post it, you didn't have an expectation of privacy... but you do have copyright to your performance... a convoluted problem... I like it...
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