What NOT to do as a business owner...

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago to Business
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This is asking for a huge lawsuit. Doesn't matter which side you are on in the debate, it is unconscionable for the company to make internal hiring or policy decisions based on it. If I had an account with Chase, I'd be in there today to move it somewhere else.
SOURCE URL: http://dailysignal.com/2014/07/18/asking-employees-reveal-personal-beliefs-chase-faces-boycott/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningbell&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonuazKZKXonjHpfsX57OklUa6wlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4ATsdkI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxU%3D


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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 9 months ago
    I'm not sure why Chase or any business would care to know this about their employees.
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    • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 9 months ago
      Chase (and other businesses) care to know it because THEY think (falsely) that the LGBT agenda is the new "civil rights" movement. It's not. It's a sham that's being perpetrated on us by the homosexual lobby. They have ALL the rights everyone else does, but nobody mentions that. Just because they can't force ME to recognize their relationship as *equal* to Marriage, doesn't mean they don't have the same civil rights. They can go out and get every single legal right that getting married gives you, with their homosexual partner. Just fill out the stupid paperwork. Should it be streamlined for them, sure why not. But that's not what this gay agenda debate is about.

      Unfortunately my mortgage is with Chase, and I can't move it :(
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 9 months ago
    Hello blarman,
    I believe this falls under the categories of "None of your business" and counterproductive. Is there no sense of privacy? of propriety any longer?
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago
    No matter Chase should be ashamed. No company be it large or small has this right. Thank God I do not associate with this firm. Huge lawsuit is an understatement.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 9 months ago
    Wow, although I didn't find any real response from Chase in the links, you'd think that Chase might have learned from Costco that there are certain things that you can or can not do that will piss off about half of your customers. As big as Chase is, losing half their customers would hurt them drastically. There are certain issues and even simple discussions that businesses should not get involved in, period. This is where a professional CEO comes in.
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  • Posted by $ FredTheViking 9 years, 9 months ago
    I think that Chase wanted to figure out how many people in thier organization are gay and how many people are okay with that. This information is useful to understand how many employees could sue Chase if they are fired based on a claim, they were disincrimated against based on thier sexual orientation.

    The information will likely be used for lawsuit risk analysis. Of course, an employee being asked to fill out the survey might not think that's what the survey is about, which is completely understandable.

    The mistake on part of Chase was a apparent lack of empathy for the employees who would be filling out the survey. Surprise a organization like Chase would go through with a survey like this.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 9 months ago
    It sounds like some Chase shotcaller is trying to get media points for "lawsuit of the year"... or since they got bailed by the dotgov, they think they're bulletproof, and the law doesn't apply to them anymore?

    Glad I don't have any investments with these folk... they're gonna take a hit for this one. Hell, even a low level fast food assistant manager knows NOT to do something THIS stupid.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 9 months ago
    Hey, the queer community makes a point of shoving this stuff in our faces...how can anyone consider it "private" information, anymore? The Washington State Patrol requires a financial disclosure statement from prospective employees...how's THAT for invasion of privacy?
    I don't understand the hoopla...assuming the questions were, indeed, optional. Just like the dozens of forms that ask our age, sex, RACE, household income, etc. that we receive on a regular basis. Those answers are considered optional, yet I don't see International groups getting all hot and bothered about them.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago
    Well, it certainly was fun to start with that link and then try to drill down or Google ANY sources which might EXPLAIN Chase's position, rather than make assumptions about their motives or otherwise automatically vilify the company.

    I finally found one... http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...

    JPMC is LGBT friendly and has been for quite a long time. Many of their corporate policies and support areas reflect that.

    I can understand why a large corporation might want to do a 'reality check' with their employees regarding causes that the corporate folks support.

    To me, this is sort of the mirror image of the Hobby-Lobby or Chick-fil-A brouhaha where Corporate has made THEIR positions clear but 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    As for JPMC being publicly traded, the free market can respond to them, too. They'll probably lose some business over this but odds are, it won't be a significant amount.

    Just like HL and CfA haven't suffered by my personal boycott, either.
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  • Posted by shivas 9 years, 9 months ago
    All this politically correct nonsense is just that. There is no reason that a company shouldn't be able to ask whatever they want. And you have every right to answer it or not.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago
      Actually, according to current employment law, that is not the case. If it isn't relevant to job performance, all HR professionals will tell you not to go there - especially on a company-wide basis. It's a certifiable no-no when you are dealing with protected-class issues like religion, race, etc. because regardless whether or not you say you acted on the information, the fact that you gathered it in the first place when it serves no legitimate business use makes you ripe for a class-action lawsuit and millions of dollars in fines.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
    The LGBT network sounds well-intentioned but something that came off completely wrong.

    Maybe they had intentions of discriminating based on the info, but they're at least saying they're trying *not* to discriminate. Their approach may have accidentally made the problem of discrimination worse.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago
      Perhaps, but why go to the bother of collecting the information if you aren't going to use it? If you are trying to remain as objective as possible, why potentially cloud your reasoning with non-pertinent facts? It's like sending out a survey to all your employees to find out who is pregnant when you're considering your insurance premium payments.
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