Who Turned Out the Lights? The Coming Mega Sun Storm

Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 9 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I have been reading about this for a while. Sounds like something we should prepare for. The affects would be much more devastating than Global Warming which I do not believe in anyway.
SOURCE URL: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-03/u-dot-s-dot-plans-for-power-grid-crippling-sun-storms


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 9 months ago
    To think that I twice drove an Alabama - California round trip during the 70s before cell phones! How did I manage that? So scary!
    Old dino me has no use for anything like Facebook. I try to mind my own business and people can stay out of mine. Nosy Big Brother may also be taking notes.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
      Big Brother is watching. I remember in the 70's my dad got a CB radio. I thought that was so cool.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
        CB is a fun crazy free-for-all. http://bit.ly/CBffa

        The ISM bands are also not very regulated, and they are used amazingly efficiently. In a few years over half of smartphone data will be over WiFi in the ISM bands. Many cities and businesses send important data to control water pumps and industrial equipment on links several miles long, on Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi wasn't intended for that, but it's there, it's unlicensed, and people put it to excellent use.

        CB is also not regulated and is just place to goof off. You can transmit a Morse code beacon, send data, use foul language in any mode you wand, and pretty much no one cares.
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        • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
          I'd advise against the foul language thing. Despite CB being a non-licensed band, the FCC still has the ability to monitor any transmission and fine for blatant misuse, including foul language, retransmission of music, or commercial use.

          Today, people are getting into channelized communications using FRS and GMRS (those walktie-talkies you can get for $40 at Wal-Mart.
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
            @blarman What you say is correct, but people regularly transmit with thousands of watts using the most profane language possible. They go between channels and stray far outside the limits of the band, by almost 1MHz in both directions.
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            • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
              I don't doubt what you say about the abuse of CB. Doesn't mean it should be encouraged.

              A mobile CB rig is forbidden by law to generate more than 4 Watts on AM or 12 W SSB (PEP) and amplifiers or modifications are strictly illegal. That's enough to get you heard within the radio horizon (line-of-sight + ~15%). Even amateurs top out at 1500 Watts and that only on specific frequencies. If they truly are putting out the kind of power you are mentioning (and operating outside of the bands specified by the FCC), that's a real easy way to get fined and get their equipment seized.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
                Yes. I agree. We should drop the law or enforce it. As it is it seems like they never enforce it. It's just one more law they can enforce if someone angers some official.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 9 months ago
    Look on the bright side (no pun intended) Rich. Obama without his teleprompter, Reid, Pelosi, Baynor, and MSNBC silenced. Might even close down the 4:00 PM Guatemala to Yuma run. :-)
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  • Posted by ISank 9 years, 9 months ago
    I had the chance to visit the U of Hawaii observatory on Haleakala with one of their astronomers. It's fascinating work and the images of the solar flares was impressive.

    A few years ago we woke up to no power on a Sunday and we were fine. I camp so much we were able to have a nice breakfast, and lunch, then in the middle of the afternoon, two of our friends showed up saying they knew we were fine, can they join us for dinner. So we had a nice meal with company.

    On a side note, I said what I thought was a funny comment to the astronomer, something like when do have time to write those predictions for the newspaper? The dood was not happy. No sense of humor.

    Hey it's Saturday, get out there or wherever you want to be.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
      I like when the power goes out for a little while. I think more than a week would drive me nuts.
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      • Posted by ISank 9 years, 9 months ago
        Agreed, one week is when we figured we'd be out of saimin, charcoal, and wine. Especially if our friends kept coming over.

        There is certain peace in the house when electricity is absent.
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 9 months ago
          We lost power for a week once, and you get *really* imaginative on how to keep food cold and heat going... Fortunately we had wood stoves, hurricane lamps, and had a generator to keep the freezer frozen... but it really *does* wake you up to the "what-if" scenarios...
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          • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
            My family business can actually operate when the power goes out. We have to go old school and write down sales to enter later but some stores rely so much on the point of sale registers that they have to close.
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            • Posted by $ Maree 9 years, 9 months ago
              Yes when the earthquakes wiped out our city's power in 2010/11 it was those little shops who could accept customers like me who had cash in the house who could keep trading. The supermarkets couldnt even get their electric doors open let alone their tills. Ditto for petrol.
              I had food, water, cash and shoes. And like Susanne, a good garden of vegies.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    Oh, No!
    I just discovered the Gulch a couple of months ago. I would surely miss my daily addiction. However, we've survived them in the past, and even though we have much more in the way of gadgets that will get screwed up, we'll survive.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
    Second note: the key to "weathering" (pun intended) any kind of natural occurrence like this is planning and preparation. Even FEMA advises that everyone have on hand 72-hours worth of preparation for everyone in the house, as it usually takes 72 hours after even a reasonably-sized disaster for emergency crews to restore basic services like power and water - more in the case of a major disaster like an earthquake.

    There are plenty of places on the internet you can go (and no, I'm not advocating the extreme "prepper" mentality) to get info on making your own 72-hr kit. The basics are 2 gallons of water per person per day and some basic foodstuffs and heat. Also a wind-up radio for tuning to the alert system and for public broadcasts.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
    It's really only a matter of time before something like this happens, but we're talking astronomical time - not necessarily human time.

    The other thing I would encourage the readers here to do is to read up on the differences between solar flares and CME's (coronal mass ejections). It is the CME's that endanger earth.
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