But... drugs are not legal. That is a separate issue - therefore a diversion. Also cold comfort to raped children and their families. We are not living in Fantasyland; we go by the points on the board.

Gang or no gang, it is rational, ethical and proper to control the entry of each and every immigrant to this country in context of: criminality, terrorism (a different form of criminality,) seditious/revanchist/irredentist ideology (ditto,) also health and self-sufficiency - and eject "any and all" who fail those criteria with extreme prejudice. Prejudice having nothing to do with the trivia of racial derivation, BTW (which latter is another diversion.)

What we are seeing is apparently Obama's stab at accelerating the UN's Agenda 21 plan for global collectivist serfdom within this century - the obliteration of American sovereignty by dilution, via people from adjacent nations who not only have **no** desire to assimilate as Americans but harbor a seething hatred of both America and Americanism. Much like... Mr. Obama.

There is a valid, individualist case for open borders, but "open borders" does not mean indiscriminate acquiescence to invasion. It means letting into the country any individual who is **not**: a criminal, seditious, a terrorist, a revanchist, an irredentist, carrying a deadly communicable disease, a parasite on his way to the nearest welfare office - to build his own life for himself, unmolested by others, and not molesting others - figuratively or literally.

The facepalm-irony of it all is that Mexico could and should be one of the wealthiest nations on Earth, with a real problem of Americans sneaking south across the border in search of a lucrative living. It's sitting atop one of the largest petroleum fields on the planet (albeit of a less-"sweet" grade of crude that requires more refining.) But it's laboring under generations of corruption, a substandard Constitution, decades of neglect by American politicians in fostering improvement in those conditions, and a current American Administration populated by collectivist vandals.

To posit that none of this would be much of a problem if it weren't for the "war on drugs" virtually precludes a response beyond laughter.
.

Making untrue statements is not criticism, it is calumny. Calling Israel an apartheid state is an outright lie. Apartheid was coined about conditions in South Africa where blacks were not allowed any say in their fate, let alone being able to participate in government. I assume you are talking about Muslims in Israel, who are allowed equal citizenship, own property and even sit in the Knesset which is their congress. That's some apartheid.

Somebody forget that the Israelites *are* an Arabic tribe? I know it's not a popular sentiment because, after intermarrying with fairer-skinned races they look more European than their Palestinian neighbors, and a lot of those don't like to look at their darker-skinned co-inhabitors of the area and say "our roots are the same"...but they are. A=A.

You can't say "It belonged to the Israelites long before the Arabs had any claim to it" because, gasp, they are (other than religious differences and ethnic intermixing with "outsiders" by the Israelites) the same peoples. They are of the same ethno-geographical stock, all have the same geographical "roots".