BREAKING: Court upholds religious exemptions to Obamacare mandate

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago to Legislation
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The article doesn't go into the details of the ruling, which is far tighter than the article would have you believe, but at least they came up with the correct verdict.

And it was no surprise to me that it was a 5-4 decision. What angered me was the argument that somehow other people would be "burdened" by someone else's religious objections. Hypocritical much, Justice Ginsberg?
SOURCE URL: http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/06/30/supreme-court-birth-control-mandate-violates-religious-freedom/?subscriber=1


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  • Posted by $ iamfrankblanco 9 years, 9 months ago
    I love the outrage from the left when they fail to realize that the exemption only extends to some birth control. Their solution to not getting what they want is to resort to slanderous attacks, profanity-laced rants, and "boycotts". It's like dealing with a petulant child who isn't getting its way.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 9 months ago
    I honestly do not understand why any court has to rule, or have the authority to rule, on anything written in the Bill of Rights.

    O-care and his mandate violates so many aspects of individual freedom as outlined in the Bill of Rights that its absurd to have found a foothold in American politics.

    Many aspects of each of the Bill of Rights cascade into so much of life that it renders so much that the government does and seeks to do unconstitutional. The audacity of American government today!
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 10 months ago
    Excellent! Now when will we see this headline:

    "Supreme Court Extends Freedom of Conscience Rulings to Atheists"
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago
      In reference to what? I'm not following you.
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      • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 9 months ago
        The Supreme Court ruling upheld a religious "freedom of conscience" exemption to an Obamacare mandate. Non-religious people have consciences also (at least most of them), and their conscience-based actions are entitled to as much protection as the actions of those who act on their religious beliefs.
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        • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago
          Why wouldn't this ruling also apply to atheists? If you have a moral objection to using the morning-after pill, you can apply this to your company's healthcare offerings.

          I'm afraid that if you are pointing at something specific, you're going to have to enumerate it. I'm not particularly good at inference.
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          • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 9 months ago
            From the Supreme Court ruling: "We must decide in these cases whether the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (RFRA), 107 Stat. 1488,42 U. S. C. §2000bb et seq., permits the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to demand that three closely held corporations provide health-insurance coverage for methods of contraception that violate the *sincerely held religious beliefs* of the companies’ owners. We hold that the regulations that impose this obligation violate RFRA, which prohibits the Federal Government from taking any action that substantially burdens the *exercise of religion* unless that action constitutes the least restrictive means of serving a compelling government interest."

            Since neither atheism nor Objectivism are religions, they do not qualify as "sincerely held religious beliefs" and acting on our principles does not qualify as an "exercise of religion." Under the Supreme Court's logic, an atheist with moral objections to providing birth control as part of his or her company's health insurance plan would not be entitled to the type of exemption that was granted by this decision.
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            • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago
              I guess that's all in how you want to define a religion. If you use the looser definition I prefer, a religion is merely a code of morality, but does not necessarily mandate a belief in a god per se. Buddhism is a recognized and official "religion", but they don't worship a god per se, but rather the concept of personal enlightenment. I personally see no reason why a belief system such as Objectivism or Atheism wouldn't qualify for the same privilege.

              I think the larger challenge is in defining your moral code. Atheism isn't known for its belief in something, but rather its anti-belief. Hobby Lobby had the very strong position of arguing for the sanctity of life and that life begins at conception - just as God defined it (again, according to their beliefs). For them, the devices such as the Plan B pill and IUD's constituted agents of death - an argument that obviously scored enough points to win them not only lower court decisions, but a win at the Supreme Court as well. I am struggling to identify anything other than a purely economic argument an atheist would use in this context.

              Now don't get me wrong, I abhor the idea of a government mandating participation in any market and believe the Supreme Court got the original Obamacare ruling dead wrong. I believe everyone should have the right to choose their own moral code/religion as long as that religion respects the rights of others. If you are struggling with how to apply this ruling to the beliefs of an atheist, so am I, but not because I disagree that you should not have the same protections, rather that the lack of a codified, recognized belief set acts as a significant barrier.
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 10 months ago
      When we see this one:

      "Supreme Court Rules That No-Tea is equivalent to Tea" (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy text-adventure reference)
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