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    Posted by jimslag 10 years ago
    I spent 21 years in the Navy and in the 80's I was working in DC. I had access to DARPA, the research wing of the Navy. They were working on things like this along with everything else. Some of the things they were working on are now part of not just the military but in use in the real world. I am sure the military has worked along these lines for quite a while.
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      Posted by Temlakos 10 years ago
      Does that include Visual Decision Estimate, a targeting/fire control system for aircraft that can lock onto a target, and even launch missiles and fire cannons, just by reading a pilot's eyes?

      And now: MRDE. Magnetic Resonance Decision Estimate. But I wouldn't want to put that in an aircraft. Can you imagine how heavy an MRI rig is?

      But in 1982, Clint Eastwood produced, directed, and took the leading role in a film (Firefox, with Clint Eastwood and Freddie Jones; Warner Bros. Pictures, 1982), in which a retired Air Force pilot penetrated Soviet Russia to steal the prototype of a Mach 5 fighter-interceptor with what looked to me to be an Electro-Encephalic Decision Estimate system. The pilot would think a command--didn't even have to say it out loud--and on that command he could launch a missile, lay flak, or fire a cannon. That is, so long as he could think in the language the system was built for. "Think in Russian," his contacts warned him.

      How does that square with your ARPA experience?
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        Posted by jimslag 10 years ago
        I saw heads up displays and they were also working on things controlled by eye motions like missile launches and stuff like that. Things like that help quadpeligics do things with their wheelchairs. Heads up displays are now in automobiles. They were also working on things to help SEALs swim, sort like a dolphin's tail. It is now used by handicap people to help them swim.
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    Posted by Herb7734 10 years ago
    I understand all the scientific talk, but what does it mean? One thing I know -- it scares the crap out of me. The further development of such technology makes current invasion of privacy look primitive. Talk about interrogation methods. This could make 1984 look like Eden.
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    Posted by Storo 10 years ago
    There has never been anything created by man that has not eventually been turned by someone to evil purposes.
    I'm pushing 70. I'm glad I will be dead in the next 10 to 15 years so I won't see this kind of stuff turned against me. Meanwhile, I will fight to keep our "scientists" from developing any more things that politicians can use to control us.
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      Posted by illucio 10 years ago
      Well it´s a little to late for that anyhow, no offense intended. We´ve been under control for centuries in more ways than one, this doesn´t seem very legitimate if you ask me. At least not from the posted example anyhow. Besides, minds are so changing that this wouldn´t be much use in the long run, imagine a lawyer´s argument against the use of this tech. And imagine how interesting it would be if we used it on politicians! Hehehe, "all that goes around, comes around" in the end.
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    Posted by Danno 10 years ago
    See http://www.amazon.com/Self-Comes-Mind-Co... if you like this stuff. This scientist did a repeatable experiment with monkeys showing that when they are shown a circle a circular neural network lights up in their brain. So the brain does physical modeling for all thought and that is why you cannot teach an old dog new tricks: the concrete is set. Chronic stress fractures the concrete.
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      Posted by $ jlc 10 years ago
      Hmmm. Which may be why there are so many deathbed/convalescent conversions: "Chronic stress fractures the concrete" and you are thinking about your own imminent mortality - so you 'get' religion or 'convert' to a different religion.

      Jan
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    Posted by Danno 10 years ago
    My take as I have read the optimistic stuff on understanding mind for decades and still computers cannot perform functions that a baby can. The mind is non-linear. So unknown variables abound with the grey matter that can modify the lizard brain. Just as weather cannot be predicted any better with the best supercomputers the robot brain goal will be the same.
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    Posted by illucio 10 years ago
    Even I don´t know what I´m thinking so...cool! This could help me defeat my schepticism! I´m all for it, bring it on. I´d like to be hypnotized as well, that seems alot more interesting than this. I have a few questions I´d like my unconscious to reveal...
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    Posted by nidhigethe 10 years ago
    I think, That was the only basis of the movie Inception.. day might come, if not near by but certainly some day... we wold be able to read minds but perhaps it wld be real tough ...
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