▶ Runaway Slave Movie

Posted by LetsShrug 10 years ago to Movies
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Watched this today on Netflix. Very interesting and I learned a few things. :)

SOURCE URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55aujTwuJY8


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  • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 10 years ago
    Used to watch the tenants of our building near Oakland repeatedly voting for bond after bond and every Democrat they could. Every year they heard the claim: This affects only land-owners - THEY have to pay extra.
    Then they wondered why their rents went up, their food went up, the gas went up, EVERYTHING went up in cost.

    There is a serious disconnect in reasoning and it is not being addressed in our educational system.
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      What programs, specifically, helped you and where do you think you would be today if not for those programs? Relying on other programs? Here's what I think we need to get to the bottom of. What makes one person have the will to succeed and another the attitude that someone else owes them something because they exist. I would be more willing to volunteer my help to someone who WANTS to succeed on their own than someone who couldn't care less about his own achievement in life. (However I'm not interested in being FORCED to help anyone.)
      No disrespect, rmcd1957, but I will always judge those who steal the labors of others. It's no different than judging a slave owner. A labor stealer is a labor stealer is a labor stealer.....
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years ago
      Thanks for your input. It sounds like the system worked as intended for you, as it does for others, but it also makes me want to ask you a question. Why do you suppose so many programs that are well-intended have not benefited the less affluent? The statistics all support the view the situation has not improved since the 1950s, in one sense, as education levels, and employment levels have fallen, the nuclear family has been shattered, and the gap between the very wealthy and the poor has grown, with the middle class steadily shrinking.

      While your drive to help others is obviously personal, Democrats have generally seemed to have looked at what was good in society, usually driven by religious institutions, and tried their best to instill some of those same ideas in government as a secular imitation. Why do you suppose they've been less successful than hoped for?
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    • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago
      I trust in the sincerity of your comment, but I find that you totally and completely misrepresent the concepts of John Galt, Objectivism, evils of altruism, and the derivation of your and your friends successes. I feel sorry for your belief that you owe your successes to 'programs' available to you because of your 'above average intelligence.' I find that you don't have any concept of economic disadvantages, and the pride in accomplishment that derives from putting in the tremendous struggle that those of us choosing to not make use of those 'programs', have when we drive ourselves over that wall you reference.

      You obviously think that the rungs of that ladder of success are made up of 'programs' available because of your 'above average intelligence' and your economic disadvantages. I chose an entirely different ladder with rungs of self motivation, hard work, pride in individual achievement, and never having to take from another (voluntarily offered or involuntarily taken). Since you don't seem to find fault for the 'big taxes' you pay, if you honestly feel that I owe someone for my successes, please feel free to go ahead and pay what you think I owe.
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    • Posted by cjferraris 10 years ago
      So, since you qualified for a program and I didn't because I learned enough of a skill to be over the income level to apply for the same program, I'm supposed to be happy that you have achieved more than I did? I worked my way up to (up until recently) a decent living, and made more than qualified for any program. However, someone that is "economically disadvantaged" to have a leg up is still an unfair advantage. When "government assistance" is part of the formula of success, it's still a "selective" measure of success.
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
      While I applaud your success, I think that you have your disappointment misplaced. Stealing from one to give to another, even if the purpose is "noble" is still theft - and don't think that it is truly out of a noble purpose that this is done. It is done for power, and power only. If it truly were done for noble purpose, then those programs that have shown themselves to be ineffective and rife with fraud and abuse would be terminated immediately, yet they are not.

      Government should not be the source of such programs. Politicians cannot be trusted to act nobly. These should be performed by non-governmental organizations, most often religious organizations. They are closer to the reality of the individuals and make better decisions on who is truly in need, and what they really need to benefit them. That's not to say that the religious aren't themselves corrupted from time to time. But it tends to be localized and more easily identifiable.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 10 years ago
    The problem is that they're taught that their benefits come from the "government" and not the TAXPAYERS. Put a face on it and educate your neighbor!
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
      Most don't give a rip who pays for it. They know that they are getting something "for free." Free to them anyway. Who pays isn't their concern, since it isn't them, and never will be.
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      • Posted by Retired24-navy 10 years ago
        Yes and when the money runs out (and it will sooner that later) and all of the freebies stop, the minorities will be marching again demanding their freebies; but it will be too late. They will riot again, but if there isn't any more money, then they will starve and anarchy will insue and maby whats lefy of the US will survive..
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
          1, I assume from your handle that you're a vet - if so, thanks for your service (even the Navy ;-)
          2, There will be quite a bit of death/destruction as the inhabitants of the cities start to forage further and further outside of those cities in search of sustenance. It won't be pretty.
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      When you bring that up the response is usually, "but they can afford it". The fact that it's outright theft doesn't sink in. It's an entitled attitude with deep roots... our own government makes those implications... 'tax the rich'. Theft is theft. Philosophical disconnect. The only way to wake them is to shut off the faucet.
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      • Posted by cjferraris 10 years ago
        My favorite question to ask people is "how much of every dollar you earn should be an acceptable amount of tax to pay?" When they give me a number, I tell them to remember that number when they say that one person or another should be taxed more. I have always believed in the flat tax. And all these progressive tax schemes only pit one person against another.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years ago
    I recently heard about this. I think it may be a beautiful piece of work.

    The Democrats have really screwed people of color. Nice to see somebody else bring that up...
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      And how. They keep voting for more of the same and don't make the connection. Reaching their minds is a huge challenge.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years ago
        As a big, blue-eyed white guy I regularly have people mistake me for a racist. It always catches me off guard. It's disapointing, too. Just another prejudice, I suppose.
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        • Posted by 10 years ago
          Have you watched "Hating Breitbart"? I watched it last night on Netflix... it's amazing how they operate... it goes into the "racist" name calling tactic. Despicable behavior. It's not even adult-like conversation. It's a bullying shut-you-up maneuver. And we've let them get away with it waaaaay too long. I still think Breitbart's death is mysterious. :(
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            Posted by g4lt 10 years ago
            There's enough reason to hate Breitbart without any racism, he WAS Citizens United, the open bribe-fests that are a modern election are directly attributable to Breitbart's desire to slander Hillary Clinton with impunity
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            • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years ago
              LOL

              Sorry. I can't see anything beyond humor without this myopic delusion of yours. I casually knew the man and he was honorable.
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                Posted by g4lt 10 years ago
                That's nice, he was honorable, but he was the one that basically made a hatchet piece to order on Hillary Clinton, then sued the FEC when it was rightly decided that it was a contribution-in-kind to Clinton's opponent. The decision in said suit is why elections are bribe-fests nowadays. I'm sorry if you find that particularly funny. I find it rather disgusting.
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                • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years ago
                  So his opposition to Comrade Clinton was a bad thing? Using what money he could to work against Comrade Clinton's aspiration was wrong? The hildabeats was/is a communist. I think you need to better understand money, what is really is, and what it represents to the individual - the tangible of a person's effort and the physical representation of a person's will.
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      • Posted by LaMuse 10 years ago
        Yes, and then they (liberals) move out of blue states with their high taxation and suffocating regulations, and move to red states which offer lower taxes and a better standard of living - only to vote for more democrats!
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years ago
      And yet they continue to vote in those that have thrown them under the bus. You would think that after decades of no progress, they would go in another direction just because they are tired of the same old thing.

      Milwaukee has had a hundred years of Democrat or Socialist (really) mayoral leadership. It continues to decline, but the residents refuse to rid themselves of those that keep them this way.
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  • Posted by amagi 10 years ago
    Yes, LetsShrug, the documentary is well worth
    watching being informative and giving additional
    knowledge over and above what most people already know.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years ago
    Powerful. Growing up in the south my bestest friend then was a kid by the name of Terry Monroe. His Mom and mine worked together in a small cafe where Mom was a waitress and Terry's Mom Chic was the head cook. Chic and my mother were very close and I knew and could feel the love between them. I will not lie to you and say they both were not strict because they were. I can still here Chic looking at me when I would go spin the night with Terry saying "boy you better keep your act together cause I will whip you just like I do my kids too". Then she would smile and hug me like I was one of her own. Have we lost that? Parents used to help each other black or white. Was that racism?
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  • Posted by illucio 10 years ago
    "ya see in here...YOU the nigga" - American History X

    This quote is spoken to the character played by Ed Norton from his "work partner" in jail, a black inmate who sees through his "Arian" façade.

    You see, these atomizations distract us all from the more important issues, the real reasons that keep our everyday man in bondage with the chains of lies and deceit that run this mascarade that we vote for since the begginning of time.

    Democracy is more an illusion than we can cope with, and the government is alot more unofficial than we can imagine. The current administration is giving proof of this in it´s current struggle to rebel against the measures lined up before them in silence and keen unaction, but this isn´t enough.

    Control is mucho more profitable than slavery, nowadays "slaves" have to work just for a place to put there beds in, something that the south provided automatically to each person in chains along with food and clothes. Yet the "illusion" of freedom is just another mask for the senses and, much worse, the mind.

    We all loved "The Matrix", especially part one. Well, we need to wake up like RATM said with there title track song, for we´re paying to be slaves nowadays and we don´t even know it. Great use of NIN´s "Reptile" on the video by the way!
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