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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago
    I personally don't have a problem with the Electoral College per se, but would like to see its vote distributions change from an all-or-nothing standpoint. The way this currently sits, it places those large counties in charge of the rest of us already!

    Two other changes I would like to see with regard to elections:

    1. Repeal of the 17th Amendment and revert Senate Elections back to State Legislatures rather than popular vote.
    2. Campaign finance laws that dictate one can not donate money to a politician not within one's jurisdiction. Anyone would be able to donate to a Presidential election, but only members of a state would be able to donate toward a Representative or Senatorial election.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 8 months ago
      The electoral college votes should be determined by how each district in the state votes. That would reduce the influence of the big population centers. The glitch there is that every state determines how its electoral votes are determined, so changes that undermine the dominant party in a state have little chance of happening.

      Agree 100% with your demand for repeal of the 17th amendment and how campaign finance laws should be changed.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 8 months ago
      I disagree with #2. It would mean you're effectively silenced if you live in a district that's been gerrymandered so the other party controls it. I regularly give to candidates for Congress from elsewhere in my state that I agree with. Tom McClintock is one.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago
        You may disagree as you see fit. My goal is to eliminate the big out-of-state players like Bloomberg and Soros who come in with organized funding and disrupt local politics in which they should have no say just to press certain issue candidates. I believe that there should be no representation without taxation (and vice-versa). If that person doesn't represent you throughout the year, you shouldn't be able to disrupt the lives of the people who are represented - agree with them or not.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 8 months ago
    It really doesnt matter if there is an electoral college or not. The whole presidential election is pretty much irrelevant anyway. The president is a puppet put in there through the contributions of crony capitalists who expect payback if he is elected. Ayn Rand is right- politics is way down the line and the result of philosophical choices. Does it really matter which party the president is from. Nixon was republican and pulled out the underpinnings of the dollar by taking us off the gold standard. Reagan introduced more deficit spending than anyone up to that time. Bush got us into a dumb Iraq war, followed by the second Bush expanding the war into Afghanistan also. Obama is a real trip of course, spending us into oblivion and taking whatever foreign affairs respect we once had and tossing it out. We are headed to the end game of socialism at this point, and thats that. Any return to private property and individual rights will require a complete collapse before enough people will see where socialism ends up and change their thinking.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 8 months ago
      The presidential election is way down there in importance, but for most people it's not the result of philosophical choices -- it's shallow sound-bite thinking if they think about it at all. Most people don't even bother to think about philosophy, and that's unlikely to change.

      And I doubt that even a collapse will change that, because it's so easy for politicians to blame someone else and be believed. Remember what happened after the German collapse of 1923. People believe what they want to believe.

      This is why I believe the way to freedom is some kind of new-country project. The only whole population that will likely support liberty anytime soon is the self-selected group that starts a new country (or seastead, or space-stead, or something similar).
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 8 months ago
        count me in on a new country. It would be under attack pretty quickly of course, as it excelled in a sea of socialist failure. A good TV series is on Netflix, called JERICHO. Between that and of all things, WALKING DEAD, we can get a pretty good idea of what civilization disintegrating would be like. JERICHO was because of an orchestrated nuclear conflagration, and WALKING DEAD from some sort of disease (forget the zombie thing- imagine them as the hordes of mindless, unthinking and civilization-less humans roaming around looking to take whatever they can to stay alive.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonist 8 years, 8 months ago
    Thanks for this. It's good to have a refresher course on these issues. I agree that the Electoral College exists for a reason, and too many people oppose the EC without realizing what problems it is intended to solve.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 8 months ago
    There are some exceptions to this theme. The internal demographics of a State is also important. My State of Nevada has horrendously distorted demographics with almost all the population concentrated in the Las Vegas and the Reno-Carson area. And the rampant explosion of these populations have come from elsewhere - quite a mix politically. The balance between R vs D usually leans to the D side, but often can be close.

    Where I am in the State in far northeastern Nevada is one of the nations largest and relatively unpopulated counties - Elko County. But it actually can serve as a tipping balance when the rest of the State is a wash. Elko County is a traditional conservative stronghold and is therefore an important, but rural swing area for a candidate to visit.

    In 2008, during the campaign trail, I was living out by the end of the runway of the Elko Airport and personally witnessed Obubbleheads jetliner coming in to attempt to sway that balance in the D's favor. And apparently successful.

    A notable low point in my life.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago
    I still remember Al Gore complaining, "I won the popular vote."
    But what the hell? We're now nearing the smelly rear of 8 years under Presidebt O'Pinocchio.
    I hope.
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  • Posted by bbuckeye 8 years, 8 months ago
    I think it is a reach to suggest that a candidate would spend 100% the time in the heavily populated areas. Also, one must consider that currently the Republican nominee spends little or no time in New York or California since 100% of their electoral votes are destined for the Democrat candidate.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 8 months ago
    You'll have no argument from me about that map. The whole idea was to make sure the President would be more than the chief instigator (I do not dignify such a person with the term "leader") of a mob.

    That's all Barack Obama is: a riot inciter. Not a leader. The Electoral College picks leaders.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
    This is confusing because the electoral college is by state and his population map is by county.

    Also, I couldn't tell if the end was a parody: "I personally am hoping that the climate change stuff is all just propaganda put out there by Godless liberals who want to weaken America for the UN-lead introduction of sharia law, and not a real thing."
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