How to conquer a country without firing a shot

Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 8 months ago to Business
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Ellen hits the bullseye.
Banksters control Greece and liberty is dead.
Control the creation of money from nothing and ultimate power is yours.
"Let’s have an independent commission look into how on earth it is possible that a cabal of unelected movers and shakers gets full control over the entire financial structure of a democratically elected eurozone member government. By all means, let’s see the legal arguments for this."
SOURCE URL: http://ellenbrown.com/2015/07/30/the-greek-coup-liquidity-as-a-weapon-of-coercion/


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  • Posted by SaltyDog 8 years, 8 months ago
    What I find truly amazing is the fact that there are those who won't even consider the possibility of it happening here. Even before the new super secret Asian agreement.
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  • Posted by jimslag 8 years, 8 months ago
    Greece is just a footnote that lets you know that whole European experiment is a farce that will not work without a total meltdown. You take a broke country like Greece or Italy or Spain or Portugal or Ireland, then give it money at a cut rate to what they had experienced while out of the Union of Countries and they are going to spend and spend. They are getting credit they don't deserve at rates they don't deserve. It would be like giving a credit card to college student at 1.9% interest or giving a home owner a interest only loan on 150% the value of the house or give a house loan to those that cannot afford the payments. Oh wait, people do that or did that and that is some of the reasons we had the crash. Anyway, with Greece, a lot of the money went out of the country into private bank accounts, just like all other countries, yes, even here. So, Puerto Rico is heading in the same direction, where the banks and hedge funds control everything as they control the debt and as a US Territory, PR cannot declare bankruptcy, just like Greece in the Union. The whole system is corrupt and needs reform but they pay to much money to politicians, so no reform for them.
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  • Posted by woodlema 8 years, 8 months ago
    EXTREME Patience, and LONG term planning, KNOWING it will take possibly two generations.

    Nikita Khrushchev: "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

    Of course it is long term planning and people to damn stupid to actually reason on what is happening. We call that a conspiracy, and it is REAL!!!
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  • Posted by jtrikakis 8 years, 8 months ago
    Seems no one sees the forest from the trees. Government officials are a product of looters who get them elected. Do you think McCain and Obama work up and said I need to be president. Looters needed a winner ( Obama ) and a easy loser (MaCain). 2012 was no different. Get rid of weeds (looter) and you good crop will grow.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 8 months ago
    That is all a bunch of nonsense. Or, it is "sense" if you accept the premises of current banking regimen. I studied it well in 2009-2010 in two graduate classes in international monetary systems and transnational enterprise. But, if you start from first principles, and think this through from an Austrian (praxeological) perspective, you get a different answer.

    The government of Greece is insolvent because they pay out more money in benefits than they take in in taxes. Retirement is at age 55 and is the most generous in Europe.

    When Greece was admitted to the EU, the government took on even more debt for "public works projects" of little practical (financial) value. Bids were always over-valued, with the government being charged more than an equivalent private party.

    More fundamentally, Greece is a kleptocracy - and has been since Homer's day...
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    • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago
      Yes, the government bought into the con completely as looters often do when it seems to be something for nothing. The dangers of trusting the government should be a required course taught 4 or 5 times over the 12 years in school. I think the saying is, "you can't con an honest man."
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    • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 8 months ago
      Absolutely right. Clear as a mountain stream. Reading of the economic collapse of Greece could turn your head inside out with all the b.s. attached. There is a saying about economists. "If you stood them all in a circle, they'd all point in different directions."
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  • Posted by illucio 8 years, 8 months ago
    Well, I´m still full of awe at how the Jesuites conquered an entire continent (central and South America) without an arrow, led or sword. Ideology, theology, guilt and mind control. That beats economy, everything you know ! And now, they´re going at it again, in full scale. With a slowly but surely control of the government, aka the Vatican; Pope "Pancho1" and his order are using demagogue measures to reclaim their long lost kingdom, human consciousness. Francis I is just the Spear Head of a much deeper, darker force you see. They´re convincing us that faith is the ultimate drug, and that we can´t live without Pandora´s curse. Please, don´t speak to me of Love or God men. You´re just the same as me, fearfull of the inevitable end...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 8 months ago
    We have one party the Greeks have over a hundred and factions within factions. The other extreme. They were and still are an easy target for opportunists. If I'm doing this right phonetically sizitisi politiki or political discussion is a way of life akin to breathing. Add to that they are very passionate in their beliefs.

    One of my favorite peoples for those very reasons. But while they are oft times very righteous in their debates they are not redolent couch potato's when it comes to action.

    If you said to them ...we are sending an independent commission...you would not get a full glass next time the retsina made the rounds.

    I asked once how they selected their leaders. "Just like you. The one with the least BS. Unfortunately just like you we have none with no BS.

    How is it possible? Gee I dunno I'd ask that question of those who presented us in with the current government in the USA first.

    As for legal? What's that? They did just the same and ignored legal - just like here..

    I bought the next round. After all I was the guest.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 8 months ago
    The Greek story is far from over. If the present status quo stands, all the other debtor countries in the EU will demand similar treatment. The Germans will be unable to support them all, and will be forced to pull out themselves!

    At that point the debtor countries will finally have to make the hard choice -- either abandon the welfare state, or use the printing press to fund it and become banana republics.
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  • Posted by woodlema 8 years, 8 months ago
    Maybe time to "short" the DOW and NASDAQ? Buy some options on puts for December/January?

    If you can and are willing to take a risk, and see this coming, you could make a fortune when everyone else is crashing...
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  • Posted by Sunjock13 8 years, 8 months ago
    You mean like "prevailing wage" ...Which is of course 30% more than the highest wage paid... A brainchild of our corrupt and failing government... As mandated from their union kickbacks!
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