Crisis Progress Report (9): Landfall, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years, 8 months ago to Economics
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As the tsunami makes landfall, most US commentators and experts are advising investors to play on the beach. The headlines and hype about the few overpriced stock market darlings making new highs are endless, while an ever-increasing number of stocks quietly falter. Natural resource stocks and debt have cratered and some companies have announced drastic restructuring or declared bankruptcy. The overwhelming force and destructive power of the crashing debt deflation tsunami will render the inane preoccupations of much of the US populace—and the preening, posturing idiocy of their elites—irrelevant, dangerous distractions.

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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 8 months ago
    Well Robert; more hopeful news for those that think they can outlast the 'tsunami' as you call it and still be around to pick up the pieces of flotsam and jetsam laying on the beach afterwards. I'm not normally a gloom and doom kind of guy, but in this I think I can say, 'Dieing is easy, Living's going to be hard'.

    Txs again for an excellent summation.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
    How is this different from the normal economic cycle? I started paying attention to economics in the mid 80s. I listened to talk radio and shortwave. It was a golden age for those media. Anyway, the histrionics following the Oct '87 crash are etched into my mind b/c I heard them at age 12. Then I heard the exact same thing during the recession of '91, the tech bubble burst in 2000-2002, and the mortgage crisis in 2008.

    It all looks like people of the world willing to invest in risky ideas that may or may not change the world, e.g. Amazon.com or Webvan, and on balance earning a decent return over the long-run in exchange for ignoring the histrionics.

    Your articles point out a unique element to this latest boom-bust cycle that I've never seen before: the 90s-Japan situation of the Fed pushing all the way on the gas with hardly any response. (I'm not counting as a response those who say the loose policy has resulted in everyone being able to raise their prices, except for the one doing the complaining.)

    I simply cannot understand the failure of prices and rates to rise. You've pointed out how in this environment some large companies make their investors more money simply by issuing debt to buy back equity than they do serving customers. It's bizarre.

    I do not understand why any of this makes a crisis though. Eventually the pendulum will shift, I say, and all those bond holders will lose big when inflation and nominal rates rise. Maybe the next stock market crash will come when the Fed hits the brakes to control wages and prices. You OTOH say prices we will not return to historical levels of inflation and interest rates. The questions of how can this be and how investors should respond is probably the subject for the work-in-progress paid area of your website.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago
      I could write a book about why there has been nothing "normal" about economics or economic cycles since 1913 and the establishment of the Federal Reserve. However, I've written many blog posts on straightlinelogic that make that case ("The Economics of Debt, Deterioration, Deflation, Depression, and Disorder" 11/17/14 is a good place to start). David Stockman has saved me the trouble of writing a book. His tome, The Great Deformation, details the full extent that central banking, government intervention, and fiat-money fueled debt have warped and deformed "normal economic" cycles beyond recognition, and the pernicious short-, medium-, and long-term consequences. I would suggest the blog posts and Stockman's book.

      As for not understanding why prices and rates are not rising: debt, like everything else, undergoes diminishing marginal returns. In a world saturated with debt, additional debt, in the form of central bank balance sheet expansion and debt monetization, actually has a negative effect. It not only does not produce growth or price pressures, it retards them because of the additional debt service and repayment obligations on economies already groaning under debt. I despise Keynes but I'll use his expression: central banks are pushing on a string. What is required is for total debt to shrink--a lot--which will act as a margin call on the world's financial and economic system and will be, given the $200 trillion in world, highly deflationary and economically contractive. Lo and behold, events are matching my predictions (check out what commodities have done the last 12 months), not the endless, tiresome, and wrong predictions of endless hyperinflation that's always just around the corner. We may have hyperinflation some day, but not until most of the massive debt overhang is eliminated via repudiation, bankruptcy, and in a few cases, actual repayment. Again, for more, see SLL and Stockman's book.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
        Are you saying this deflation is primarily driven by fiscal policy, not the Fed's monetary policy? If so, would balancing the federal budget stop the deflation? Or would it require deleveraging in the private sector too?
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        • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 8 months ago
          You can never balance a federal budget with 1/3 or more of it's population out of the work force, not to mention the eventual come to Jeezus moment of having to service the debt of the country and somehow pay off some of the accumulated debit. Where do you think you're going to get the revenue from when the average American today is paying out 50% of his earnings each year in Fed, State, and Local taxes and government fees. Now add in the current and projected increases of our 'leaders healthcare system' cost on those that have income and what are you left with, 35% to 40% of gross earnings available for the use of the earner and his family.
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
            If we made modest cuts to all programs, ones you like and ones you hate, and stopped growth in spending, the problem would easily disappear. I don't think politicians will do that though until there's a crisis.
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            • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 8 months ago
              Modest cuts! We've been told that crap since Reagan. NO, we drastic elimination.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
                Let's have an argument over modest cuts vs drastic cuts in a world of ever-expanding gov't.
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                • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 8 months ago
                  Our problems in the government is government taking and spending and the associated regulations and interference in our day to day lives and businesses. The only way to stop them and as citizens, regain control of them is to stop the money flow, not modestly reduce it. If you leave the faucet there, they'll always come up with reasons to start re-opening it.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
        Thank you for the free financial commentary.

        "Lo and behold, events are matching my predictions (check out what commodities have done the last 12 months), not the endless, tiresome, and wrong predictions of endless hyperinflation that's always just around the corner. "
        Indeed!

        I'm watching the no-rate-hike-until December prediction.
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