A Thought
With the recent hoopla over Comfederate flags, a thought occurred to me. Some years ago, Mr. Obama didn't wear a U.S. Flag pin in his lapel. He explained the our flag was offensive and a symbol of oppression in some corners of the world. So I'm thinking that since we seem to have entered a new progressive era, why not outlaw ALL state, local and private organization flags? Make the only legal flag in the U.S. the national ensign! And in keeping with liberal sensibilities, we could change the flag to something more benign and non-threatening. How about no symbols at all? Why not just a big, white bedsheet? This would have the added bonus of being the ultimate symbol of the Left in this, our 21st century.
What do y'all think?
What do y'all think?
Jan
(Quite well aware that a vexillologist has told her what entity flies an 'invisible' flag.)
Obama's even in his own book implies he wanted to take down America and stop its "imperialism."
One of my favorite lines in a movie is from one of the Batman Movies. It was said by the Alfred referring to the Joker, and I am 100% convinced Obama is the Joker..
People do not understand, "Some people just want to watch the world burn....."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM47rdMz...
Damn spellcheck! Waytodude
A great comment on our apparent willingness to surrender at every turn. Since we're apparently surrendering to Iran, ISIS, China and Russia on a daily basis, it might be the appropriate change to our flag. OK, this is all in jest, since as a child I stood at attention each morning in school and pledged allegiance to that beautiful flag. One of us was selected each week to raise the flag in front of the school. I can still remember how much an honor it was to be chosen for that duty. No white flag for me, I'm still proud of what the stars and stripes once stood for.
Flags are not pieces of cloth that move in the breeze - they represent something to the people who choose to fly the flag. You could call it patriotism or respect. What matters is that the symbols on the flag represent something, it's just over time that a flag becomes a symbol itself.
Removing the American flag won't make people in the world remotely happy - it's American actions against them that make the flag a symbol of oppression. Treat the cause, not the symptoms.
As for making flags illegal, isn't that what oppressive governments do? Removing the freedom of states to display their own individualism isn't going to bring them together.
As for the Confederate flag, people are not angry about the flag itself - which does have a pretty good design. It's the values behind the flag that make people angry namely slavery. That our states and cities would fly a flag that rallies together under a flag that represents slavery is morally unpalatable. So when they say " Bring down the Confederate flag!", they really mean "Stop disguising the enforcement of slavery as heritage."
Banning the flag won't do much, a flag can be easily made. Making people realise what that flag stands for is much easier and much more effective at bringing that flag down for good.
A little history - the reason why flags are so prevalent actually goes back to the time when flags needed to be seen over quite a distance. They were designed to be quite noticeable. We could have used buttons or relics as a banner people rally under - but flags were quite simple to make and very recognisable. Even kids can make them.
Thirteen lemmings follow a Pied Piper who looks like a cartoon Obama to the edge of a cliff.
I have a sign [image] I am working on [waiting on the copyrights] maybe it would serve as our new flag. It will be a depiction of a 'bow finger' in action and the words 'Our bow fingers are intact' in the shape of a bow. That should express our sentiments to the rest of the world and those that wish to take us down, very nicely I think.
What do you'all think?
Worse was what was done to many native tribes. The one that comes first to mind was the Cherokee in Georgia, but there were others as well. This was the result of the grab for power by various leaders and was widely accepted. The Cherokee was especially bad since they went to courts, won and were still removed illegally by Andrew Jackson. Many died in one of the most shameful parts of our history.
I know Miss Rand did not agree about the native tribes but perhaps she needed more information; no one knows everything.
You might make the case that our government is oppressing all of us with taxes, regulation and bad non-objective laws.
Look for 1776 to 2015 The Road to a Single Party System of Government and related as they are posted references. I can tell you it's a chore digging some of this out.l
For example, (1) I am sure that ISIS finds our flag offensive. (2) Iran finds it offensive. (3) Soviet Russia found it offensive. (4) Nazi Germany found it offensive.
But I can totally understand Obama's concern, given that he: (1) passed a trade federation bill that could lead to something similar to OPEC, (2) allows an inimical nation to pursue nuclear enrichment, (3a) established socialized medicine in his term, (3a) opened diplomatic relations with a communist state, (4a) used popular movements to promote an extremist agenda, and (4b) and believes himself to be a Robin Hood and a hero of the greatest stature for being brave enough to be a coward. Remember what Ayn Rand said about that?
The truth is, Obama and the new left will loose, just as all who hold explicitly false principles do. He will go down in history as the president who sided against American individualism, and we all know that. His "moral sacrifice," or whatever terminology he may choose in attempting to legitimize or sanction his actions, will basically be remembered as, well, the sacrifice of morals themselves.
To paraphrase Ayn Rand: There are those who are right, those who are wrong, and those who are evil. The right being right, the wrong being wrong, and the evil seeking the middle of the road moral compromise between the two.
No piece of fabric, however designed, could possibly have anything to do with human actions.
I found the need to use a flag as a scapegoat to be particularly bizarre.
I view that strange action as utter dishonesty and a hallmark of the unraveling of our culture.
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Good post.
The white flag of surrender. It can be accompanied by; We humbly apologize for our misdeeds in leading civilization out of oppression and into prosperity. We now understand that every accomplishment was used to make a certain class of people rich while causing others to be not-so-rich. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
For real, though, I agree with platinumwolf. Flags are symbols of what some particular group stands for. Those who wish to distance themselves from the flag of the United States of America are those who want to distance themselves from the values and heritage of this nation because they no longer seek to be represented by the values in that flag. And I encourage those who do not want to be proud of this nation, it's Founding Fathers, the Declaration of Independence, and our Constitution to divest themselves of it.