Seven Things You Didn't Know About The Civil War
I recall reading that there was a large number of black slave owners. But over 3,000? Yikes!
Lincoln turns out to be a worse tyrant than I previously thought, but what I really did not know was that Lincoln was one of those "Send 'em all back to Africa" kinda guys.
Lincoln turns out to be a worse tyrant than I previously thought, but what I really did not know was that Lincoln was one of those "Send 'em all back to Africa" kinda guys.
Republicans formed from three smaller parties all of whom held varying anti-slavery positions.
1860 - Republicans nominate Lincoln. Party takes a free-soil stance on slavery by opposing expansion into the territories. However recognizes the institution's legality in the South.
(Democrats split into three sectional factions over slavery Southern Democrats want Congress to enact a slave code to protect the institution in the territories. Copperheads were Northern Democrats who favored a negotiated settlement, supported slavery, and were against Lincoln’s violations of the constitution.
Lincoln assumed strong executive powers in suppressing [anti-war sentiment], including arrests, suppression of the press, suspension of habeas corpus, and censorship.”
These things are not points of dispute–they happened.
Northern Democrats prefer territorial residents decide the slave question. Southern Democrats were pro slave in the territories. Republicans went for one slave state for one free state.
Abraham Lincoln wins a plurality of popular vote, an electoral college majority.
December 1861 - Lincoln urges the border states (slaves states still in the Union) to voluntarily emancipate their slaves.
March 1862 - Lincoln proposes a formal plan of gradual, compensated emancipation. Congress passes a resolution in favor. None of the border states agree.
April 1862 Congress abolishes slavery in the District of Columbia, with financial compensation to former slave owners.
June 1862 - Congress bans slavery in the territories, no compensation citing cost.
July 1862 -
President Lincoln plans to issue an emancipation proclamation. Secretary of State Seward convinces him to wait until after a major Union victory.
September 1862 - Union forces repel Confederate General Robert E. Lee's invasion of the North at Antietam, Maryland. Lee retreats to Virgina. Lincoln announces the Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation - with an offer. If the Confederacy does not surrender by January 1, 1863, the president will free all the slaves in Confederate territory. If the Confederate states do surrender, their slaves will not be freed.
January 1, 1863 - The Emancipation Proclamation goes into effect. All the slaves in Confederate territory are declared free. The policy does not apply to the border states or to Southern territory held by the Union before January 1 nor any of the Northern States.
December 1863 - Lincoln announces his reconstruction plan. Offers general amnesty to white Southerners who take an oath of future loyalty and accept wartime measures abolishing slavery. Whenever 10% of the number of 1860 voters take the oath in any state, those loyal citizens can then establish a state government. In 1864 the governments of Louisiana, Arkansas, and Tennessee are reconstructed under the"Ten Percent Plan." Congress refuses to recognize the governments or seat the delegates.
June 1864 - Congress repeals the Fugitive Slave Law
July 1864 - Wade-Davis bill. Requires a majority of 1860 voters to take a loyalty oath, but only those who swear an "ironclad" oath of never having fought against the Union can participate in reconstructing their state's government. Requires the state constitutions to include bans on slavery, disfranchise of Confederate leaders, and repudiate Confederate state debts. After Congress adjourns, Lincoln uses "pocket-veto" The plan fails.
November 1864 - Lincoln wins reelection against the Democratic presidential nominee.
January 1865 - 13th Amendment banning slavery in the entire United States passes.
April 1865 - Lincoln assassinated, Southern Democrat VP Andrew Johnson becomes President.(and proceeded to veto every attempt until his impeachment by the anti-slavery Republicans and refusal to renominate by the reunited Democrat Party.
There after Democrats became the anti civil rights party and the Republicans pro civil rights up until. the turn of the century when they lost interest. At that point socialism entered the picture starting with Wilson who was anti civil rights and pro segregation. Democrats did not change to any extent until FDR saw blacks as votes and brought them in the party.
Republicans began supporting civil rights providing a higher percentage of their party than did Democrats for the 1965 Civil rights Act. The remains of the Southern Democrat redeemeer philosophy blocked or voted against civil rights measures up through 1965 LBJ passed that one with the help of Republicans. although he was quoted as saying give them something to shut them up for a few decades (cleaned up version)
Voila Democrat announce they are now the party of the people with Clinton) and change their spots. Inexplicably they are joined by Republicans.
And both support the suspension of the Bill of Rights in the Patriot Act.
The 1787 Democratic Republicans and Federalists become federalist Democratic Republican Government Party 213 years later. (short version)
Democrats were pro slavery, pro segregation and Jim Crow Laws, and anti civil rights up until LBJ voted 70-30 for 1965 Civil Rights as opposed to GOP 80-20 as a percentage of memberships The old southern style democrats Gore, Byrd, and Erwin opposed ERA. Of states voting to ratify 2 Independent, 27 Republican, 6 Democrat. It failed by 3 votes after two extensions.
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I also would like to suggest that we resist the demonization of famous men. It is not accurate to whitewash Lincoln as a saint; it is also not accurate to tear to shreds someone who was both fallible and a politician...but who is a lot better than the politicians we have on top today.
Jan
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Jan
Another interesting read on this topic is Jeffrey Hummel's book "Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men".
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Let's not overlook the plight of the American Indians (yes, some could be very savage) with such incidents as The Trail Of Tears and gold found in their sacred treaty-protected Black Hills.
The human lust for power and riches can warp anything. That includes early Christianity.
Just hope we are not also overrun with "barbarians" (Russians? Chinese? North Koreans? Hispanics?
Muslims?) as was ancient Rome.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/70-million-am...
Add that to the too many who want to appear cool to peers who are too f--d up to give a rat's.
For proof I submit the reelection of Obama.
And supposedly rational people keep voting for insanity (repeating the same action and expecting a different result.)
Americans are taught in elementary school that Lincoln is the Great Emancipator.
I recall being a kid who looked up in awe at his giant statue on a virtual throne in Washington D.C. A gigantic ancient statue of the nonexistant Zeus obviously had the same effect.
I also being taught early on (in an Alabama school) that the South would have been treated better if Lincoln had not been assassinated.
For anyone to state that "Lincoln was not good" goes against a heck of a lot of serious preconditioning.
Just stick to facts. Old Dino is here to learn. So are others.
Great is a relative term. He qualifies as leader of the Emancipators although that is dicy . Deal Maker might work.
If not here then where. Good idea I'll have a new discussion post ready later today .
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"President Lincoln wrote a letter to the New York Tribune stating, “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; ... "
Lincoln was lying... AGAIN, as he did frequently.
"Honest Abe" is federal propaganda.
Lincoln could have prevented the war by doing one thing: not signing the bill that imposed an unfair tariff on the southern states for the benefit of northern manufacturers (who provided funds for Lincoln's campaign.) Lincoln could have ended the war by repealing it at any time. Southern representatives tried to see Lincoln to negotiate a peaceful way to avoid war up until the moment the war started, but Lincoln REFUSED TO EVEN SEE THEM. Lincoln WANTED the war to start. Lincoln CAUSED the war to start.
Lincoln is the biggest TRAITOR to American liberty in history.
Still, people knew what they were getting, though.
But that didn't seem to work with Obama . . .
The southern leaders knew that the tarriff was a disaster and that war was a disaster. Secession bills were one of the few political tools they had to show how serious the situation was, and they believed war could be avoided. They misjudged Lincoln's complete utter disregard for human life and his sociopathic fascism. Lincoln created the situation and caused the war.
Almost as bad is the culture of guilt resulting from the mistakes of the past and the actions taken as a result that have the opposite of the desired effect. Of course politicians have found a way to prey on the weakness of both sides to their own advantage. We need to reach the point that skin color is a way to describe an individual not a people. Do we have ashen Americans? Ruddy Americans? Olive Americans? Tan Americans? Brown Americans? Black Americans? Tall people? Short people? Skinny people? Fat people? Old people? Young people? Yes. Why do we need to associate the physical characteristics with any race? As long as we do so, we will have a problem that will continue to worsen.
"Race is, in fact, a concept that is defined by culture, and racial definitions vary from culture to culture. Definitions of race differ according to culture."
There are clusters of genes that are identified with one place-of-origin or another. These genes could be labeled Black or Asian if one wanted to trumpet the race linkage. Each of these genes drifts around the world separately. So it is possible that a British man could have 'one gene' that is Black in origin - and that gene could have a medical consequence.
So, while it is technically better to just call the genes by their names, it would be possible for someone to accurately claim that 'these genes are Black' (such as the genes that relate to the unknown hominin). If you have one of those genes, then ultimately it came from a Black ancestor.
Jan
http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04...
Of course there are conflicting reports that are fascinating as well.
There IS such a thing as 'race' genetically, it just does not have much to do with our common use of the word.
Jan, a free woman (I put that tag line on just for you #6)
by the mainstream media and racemongers like BHO??? == j
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Had to stop laughing before I wrote the above.
I'd like to see a "Who's John Galt?" beside it.